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Peter King: Rumors, Realities, and Ruminations on Draft Eve


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3 minutes ago, thurst44 said:

FWIW, Krabb last night on WGR justified his Pats-get-Rosen trade (ugh) by saying some teams have 30 players with first down grades, thus 49ers might be fine with 23/31, so it's always hard to know, but my sense would be a lower number of (probably)-can't-misses with a deep pool of round 2-round 3 types

If we lose Rosen because the Patriots out traded us I will be ill. Moreso than if we passed on someone like Lamar Jackson and he ends up getting taken by the Patriots and McDaniels develops him like he tried with Tebow. Yet I don't see the latter happening at all. 

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My guess is Denver. They don't seem to want the stress of drafting a QB high right now, with their recent troubles, and would be happy to stockpile picks and take a QB later. That's why King has been hyping us trading with them and giving them more lower round picks than just a couple of high rounders.

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Team need and positional depth are the real blind spots here, so its difficult, if not impossible, to put alot of stock into what is being said.

The draft is deep at some positions, shallow at others. If you need interior lineman, rbs, and help in the secondary, why not trade down.

Lots of round 2 players and round 3 players regularly exceed expectations, and plenty of 1st rounders bust, irregardless of where they are slotted.

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40 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

Giving up 12 / 53 / 56 / 96 for 5 or 6 to land one of the QBs (preferably Rosen) would be ideal.  One team has 15 players as 1st rounders / I've heard 18, it doesn't take much for a "1st round grade" to be there at 22.  

If they move up like in your scenario, I sure as hell hope it doesn't take all that to do it. I would much rather em stay put at 12 and keep those picks.

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King's source is more or less echoing what Gil Brandt said a few weeks ago. Basically, he sees very little separating the 15th or 16th rated prospect from, say, the 50th. Lots of "value" to be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, and this is a year where beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

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43 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

every year they say there are 20 or so first round picks.  then we get a guy like tre white who ends up being a legit first rounder available late in the first. i always find those comments about grades suspect. 

 

Last year was a much deeper first round in my opinion. I had 27 firsts last year I think. Tre was one of them. I don't love this class. Beyond QB, LB, RB and interior defensive line I am not sure there is a huge amount to excite. The good news for Buffalo is other than Wide Receiver (where I only have 3 graded in the 1st or 2nd) those positions do match our needs quite well. 

4 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

King's source is more or less echoing what Gil Brandt said a few weeks ago. Basically, he sees very little separating the 15th or 16th rated prospect from, say, the 50th. Lots of "value" to be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, and this is a year where beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

 

That is certainly true. At a lot of positions I think guys are scheme specific fits. 

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Last year was a much deeper first round in my opinion. I had 27 firsts last year I think. Tre was one of them. I don't love this class. Beyond QB, LB, RB and interior defensive line I am not sure there is a huge amount to excite. The good news for Buffalo is other than Wide Receiver (where I only have 3 graded in the 1st or 2nd) those positions do match our needs quite well. 

I like the interior OL too. There are some positions though (like edge) that are just atrocious.

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3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I like the interior OL too. There are some positions though (like edge) that are just atrocious.

 

I think interior OL through the first couple of rounds is good that is true. Not quite as sure on the depth whereas those other positions I think you can get contributors through rounds 5 and 6. 

 

I think EDGE, WR and DB are really poor classes and while I have three 1st round OTs the depth there sucks. 

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