Boatdrinks Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 6:31 PM, Zebrastripes said: I don't think the Cleveland trade happens even if you offer them a ton of picks. They take Barkley 1 then 1 of the 3 top qbs at 4. Smartest move they could make is to do this. Expand Why is this a smart move? Let two other teams possibly swoop in and take your top choice at QB? I'm curious why popular opinion on this board is that the Brows should be happy with whatever QB falls to them, but the Bills need to get pick two or three to avoid the apocalypse. The Browns can make a move and get their choice of QB and Barkley. What's bad about that?
USABuffaloFan Posted March 10, 2018 Author Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:02 PM, Zebrastripes said: Foles is not the long term answer as a qb he is not that good. The point about Luck is just asinine. If his shoulder is beyond repair and can't throw a football anymore how does that help any team. The chargers had Rivers when they let Brees walk so it's a completely different scenario then Lucks. Expand Wow, Foles just won Superbowl out throwing Tom Brady, never said Franchise QB, you can still draft that if you believe in someone later in 1st and 2nd round. Obviously Luck needs to pass a NFL physical to make trade legal, if that doesn't happen trade null if it does happen then he can play football. Manning was told to quit but still managed 3 good years and 2 Superbowl visits and a Super ring. Luck if he can play is just as talented at that point of Manning's career. Any scenario is always different, what remains the same is Indy can replace Luck with a QB that apparently Bills fans all are willing to give every pick in the top 3 rounds for. So if that is the case why wouldn't Indy take a GOOD trade even if it is for a Franchise QB that Irsay doesn't like? 1
njbuff Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 If they trade up to 2, I think it will be a monster trade, with maybe a player from each team going to the other being included in the trade. Their is a problem child on the Giants that they might wanna send Buffalo's way as part of the deal. I hope it doesn't hold the deal up. Gettleman is believed to not want to deal with said problem child. His negatives outweigh his talent.
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:11 PM, Boatdrinks said: Why is this a smart move? Let two other teams possibly swoop in and take your top choice at QB? I'm curious why popular opinion on this board is that the Brows should be happy with whatever QB falls to them, but the Bills need to get pick two or three to avoid the apocalypse. The Browns can make a move and get their choice of QB and Barkley. What's bad about that? Expand They are targeting Allen and not going to take him 1st overall. He isnt going anywhere and will be there at 4. See how that works 1 Barkely 4 Allen Taylor starts the season
Manther Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:11 PM, MAJBobby said: I dont think Barkely is mandatory to get to 2. Think it helps. If you connect the Dots with the way Giants have been selling off their picks so far (draft bankrupt already) do they already have a deal in place say to get a couple firsts plus???? Things that make you go hmmmm? Expand I don't GET "your connect the dots" can you fill me in?
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, USABuffaloFan said: Wow, Foles just won Superbowl out throwing Tom Brady, never said Franchise QB, you can still draft that if you believe in someone later in 1st and 2nd round. Obviously Luck needs to pass a NFL physical to make trade legal, if that doesn't happen trade null if it does happen then he can play football. Manning was told to quit but still managed 3 good years and 2 Superbowl visits and a Super ring. Luck if he can play is just as talented at that point of Manning's career. Any scenario is always different, what remains the same is Indy can replace Luck with a QB that apparently Bills fans all are willing to give every pick in the top 3 rounds for. So if that is the case why wouldn't Indy take a GOOD trade even if it is for a Franchise QB that Irsay doesn't like? Expand One game doesnt make a Career does it??? Foles is no different than a Rob Johnson scenario let another team get fooled
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, njbuff said: If they trade up to 2, I think it will be a monster trade, with maybe a player from each team going to the other being included in the trade. Their is a problem child on the Giants that they might wanna send Buffalo's way as part of the deal. I hope it doesn't hold the deal up. Gettleman is believed to not want to deal with said problem child. His negatives outweigh his talent. Expand Eli Apple? My scenario Browns take Barkley 1 Bills trade up and take Rosen Colts take Chubb Browns take Darnold There all finished
USABuffaloFan Posted March 10, 2018 Author Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:03 PM, MAJBobby said: 1st - Barkely to get to second overall both 1s this year a second and 65 and Glenn and 2019 2nd No way! Expand
Boatdrinks Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, njbuff said: If they trade up to 2, I think it will be a monster trade, with maybe a player from each team going to the other being included in the trade. Their is a problem child on the Giants that they might wanna send Buffalo's way as part of the deal. I hope it doesn't hold the deal up. Gettleman is believed to not want to deal with said problem child. His negatives outweigh his talent. Expand Giants are going all in on Eli for the next couple years. They wont be trading away any of his offensive weapons. They could use Glenn, though.
Zebrastripes Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:11 PM, Boatdrinks said: Why is this a smart move? Let two other teams possibly swoop in and take your top choice at QB? I'm curious why popular opinion on this board is that the Brows should be happy with whatever QB falls to them, but the Bills need to get pick two or three to avoid the apocalypse. The Browns can make a move and get their choice of QB and Barkley. What's bad about that? Expand Popular consensus is Darnold Mayfield and Rosen are all fairly close in talent. So landing 1 of them and landing the best player in the draft would be huge for that franchise.
Manther Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, njbuff said: If they trade up to 2, I think it will be a monster trade, with maybe a player from each team going to the other being included in the trade. Their is a problem child on the Giants that they might wanna send Buffalo's way as part of the deal. I hope it doesn't hold the deal up. Gettleman is believed to not want to deal with said problem child. His negatives outweigh his talent. Expand Who is the problem child? Most likely a CB
njbuff Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:14 PM, horned dogs said: Eli Apple? My scenario Browns take Barkley 1 Bills trade up and take Rosen Colts take Chubb Browns take Darnold There all finished Expand That's one of two names the Giants would love to have someone take off their hands. I think you can get the other name.
Manther Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:14 PM, horned dogs said: Eli Apple? My scenario Browns take Barkley 1 Bills trade up and take Rosen Colts take Chubb Browns take Darnold There all finished Expand Chubb may seem like a lock or can't miss. But, I still can't see anyone taking a Guard #3. Just can't...... 1
njbuff Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) On 3/10/2018 at 7:15 PM, Manther said: Who is the problem child? Most likely a CB Expand Yep, one of them. I am down here in NYC and it is believed that Gettleman really wants to move on from the problem children on the team It is believed he views them as big time cancers, no matter what their talent is. Take it for what it is worth. I hope it doesn't derail a possible trade up to 2 for the Bills. On 3/10/2018 at 7:17 PM, Manther said: Chubb may seem like a lock or can't miss. But, I still can't see anyone taking a Guard #3. Just can't...... Expand I'd be leery of that too, but Nelson is quite the prospect and people tinkk he won't make it out of the top 10. Edited March 10, 2018 by njbuff
USABuffaloFan Posted March 10, 2018 Author Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:05 PM, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Very first line says “trade for Keenum”. He will be a free agent come Monday Expand So would Tyrod and Cleveland made trade with 65th pick in draft. Anyone who believes Buffalo would throw away 6 million dollars is just as big a idiot as the team that wastes the 6 million. If Kenuum goes to Free Agency Bills have to compete. If the Bills want Keenum than you trade for him now. That is why Cleveland gave up a 65th overall pick because they would be competing with Denver for his services.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:17 PM, njbuff said: Yep, one of them. I am down here in NYC and it is believed that Gettleman really wants to move on from the problem children on the team It is believed he views them as big time cancers, no matter what their talent is. Take it for what it is worth. I hope it doesn't derail a possible trade up to 2 for the Bills. Expand The coke sniffing WR from LSU?
Manther Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:15 PM, Boatdrinks said: Giants are going all in on Eli for the next couple years. They wont be trading away any of his offensive weapons. They could use Glenn, though. Expand So, let's play along. If Glenn is health(ish) he is worth approx the same as Duane Brown. So, a 2nd and 3rd or 2 seconds. So, #21, #22, Glenn and some pick in the top 4 rounds for #2?
Boatdrinks Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:15 PM, Zebrastripes said: Popular consensus is Darnold Mayfield and Rosen are all fairly close in talent. So landing 1 of them and landing the best player in the draft would be huge for that franchise. Expand I'm going to guess that teams have a stronger opinion on these guys than fans do. The Browns have a surplus of capital and wouldn't be shocked if they want to assure themselves of their first choice. Giants are probably more than willing to move down. Maybe multiple times. They can get the G later than top 5. 1
Zebrastripes Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, USABuffaloFan said: Wow, Foles just won Superbowl out throwing Tom Brady, never said Franchise QB, you can still draft that if you believe in someone later in 1st and 2nd round. Obviously Luck needs to pass a NFL physical to make trade legal, if that doesn't happen trade null if it does happen then he can play football. Manning was told to quit but still managed 3 good years and 2 Superbowl visits and a Super ring. Luck if he can play is just as talented at that point of Manning's career. Any scenario is always different, what remains the same is Indy can replace Luck with a QB that apparently Bills fans all are willing to give every pick in the top 3 rounds for. So if that is the case why wouldn't Indy take a GOOD trade even if it is for a Franchise QB that Irsay doesn't like? Expand He didn't even come close to out throwing Brady. Why would you give up what the eagles want for a non franchise qb. You are tearing apart your own argument by saying he is a non franchise qb. Manning was a shell of himself that relied on some awesome defenses to do what he did in Denver.
Boatdrinks Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 7:19 PM, Manther said: So, let's play along. If Glenn is health(ish) he is worth approx the same as Duane Brown. So, a 2nd and 3rd or 2 seconds. So, #21, #22, Glenn and some pick in the top 4 rounds for #2? Expand I would make that deal . Not sure it would be enough, as I've seen as many as 5 2018 picks suggested as the price the Bills would pay on this board.
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