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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:24 PM, CountryCletus said:

Why would Great Lake states hold more clout that any other state???

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The industrial north used too.  Now it is the industrial southern states that hold more clout in Congress.  Why do you think shipping along with Illinois and Indiana keep winning out?

  On 11/18/2017 at 6:27 PM, Cripple Creek said:

You should take your complaints to the correct forum.  Have you no self control?

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Sorry.  This topic has been discussed here for decades.  Nobody cares.

  On 11/18/2017 at 6:25 PM, CountryCletus said:

I bet I could catch them one after another.... I’m quite the fisherman... maybe your skills are diminishing 

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 When they jump, bow them with a compound bow and reel them in.

 

 

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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:27 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

The industrial north used too.  Now it is the industrial southern states that hold more clout in Congress.  Why do you think shipping along with Illinois and Indiana keep winning out?

Sorry.  This topic has been discussed here for decades.  Nobody cares.

 When they jump, bow them with a compound bow and reel them in.

 

 

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We have fought hard for years for equality.... maybe you should kneel for the anthem to raise awareness of the lack of clout that the northern states such as Illinois and Indiana carry... and how do you bow a fish? Wouldn’t a bat be more effective?

  On 11/18/2017 at 6:25 PM, Cripple Creek said:

Oh, that kind of lock. I thought he was a locksmith. Thanks for clearing that up.  Not sure what pushing an elevator button has to do with fisheries though.

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You can’t use a push button control on a lock!!! Silly, it’s a hand crank, his arms are sore, that’s why he’s grumpy!

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Back on subject.  They wont come in.  Through Lake Michigan that is.  Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom.  Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp.

 

Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock.  Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive).  Alewives eat what the carp eat.  They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. 

 

They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish.  They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs).  Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop.  Temps above 70 degrees to spawn.

 

Not happening in Great Lakes.  Sure adult fish may make it though here and there.

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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:48 PM, CountryCletus said:

We have fought hard for years for equality.... maybe you should kneel for the anthem to raise awareness of the lack of clout that the northern states such as Illinois and Indiana carry... and how do you bow a fish? Wouldn’t a bat be more effective?

You can’t use a push button control on a lock!!! Silly, it’s a hand crank, his arms are sore, that’s why he’s grumpy!

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No.  Illinois and Indiana have the clout.

 

Are you following along.  They ship to the South and world.

 

Geeze... You aren't this dense are you?

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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:51 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Back on subject.  They wont come in.  Through Lake Michigan that is.  Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom.  Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp.

 

Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock.  Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive).  Alewives eat what the carp eat.  They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. 

 

They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish.  They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs).  Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop.  Temps above 70 degrees to spawn.

 

Not happening in Great Lakes.  Sure adult fish may make it though here and there.

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eat more carp

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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:51 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Back on subject.  They wont come in.  Through Lake Michigan that is.  Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom.  Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp.

 

Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock.  Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive).  Alewives eat what the carp eat.  They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. 

 

They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish.  They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs).  Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop.  Temps above 70 degrees to spawn.

 

Not happening in Great Lakes.  Sure adult fish may make it though here and there.

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Isn’t your river and lake so polluted that it’s considered toxic? Love the city, but it makes sense that it’s so toxic because of how dirty things are out there

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  On 11/18/2017 at 6:21 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Because it is very political.  The Great Lakes states have no clout anymore.  They are mismanagement of The Lakes by fighting invasives with invasives is leaving the door wide open.

In this situation yes.

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I’m just using the words that you send... are you suggesting Illinois isn’t a Great Lake State????

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