BigBuff423 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 10/4/2017 at 4:36 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: @AroundTheNFL .@greggrosenthal ranks all 32 starting signal-callers in his Week 5 QB Index http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000856686/article/qb-index-week-5-tom-brady-unfair-alex-smith-on-fire Ranking all 32 NFL starting QBs through Week 4 (3:06) What continuously frustrates me about the national media, is they highlight that one play, but leave out the analysis of ALLLLLLLLL the other throws that a typical NFL QB *should* make...Taylor makes these incredible throws, no doubt...but he HAS to because he doesn't make the throws on time, holds the ball too long, and fails to read a Defense quick enough for the timing to be there (in general). Also, while NO QB is perfect, too many of this throws to truly NFL open receivers are low / high / behind / or too far beyond the grasp of the receiver while also waiting too long, which compounds the problem. Timing, anticipation, and pre-reading a Defense have always been his deficiencies, not his athleticism or his ability to escape which are both elite. He's made great plays, but usually those are when he puts himself in those positions to need to make those plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, twoandfourteen said: That's exactly where he fits. Can't bring a team back from any sort of deficit. Can't run a modern passing offense. Needs literally EVERYTHING to go right in the running game, on defense, and on special teams for his team to pull out a win. Doesn't turn the ball over. Can run for the occasional first down to extend a drive or get into FG range. Excellent in the locker room and in the film room. Sounds like the ideal backup QB. Or, 30-35th at the position in the NFL. This is so full of nonsensical fallacies with the Bills coming back from a 27-20 deficit against TB to win 30- 27. The Bills run game struggled in several wins this season with Tyrod making key throws to help the Bills win (See the Denver and Atlanta games). You continue to make posts full of declarative bluster and opinion that are easily refuted by the facts of what occurred in actual game play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's just funny how some here are legitimately saying Taylor's the 30-35th best QB in the NFL. I want to upgrade, but Taylor's been a welcome surprise in his time in Buffalo. Standing strong at 24. Pff must be stoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is so full of nonsensical fallacies with the Bills coming back from a 27-20 deficit against TB to win 30- 27. The Bills run game struggled in several wins this season with Tyrod making key throws to help the Bills win (See the Denver and Atlanta games). You continue to make posts full of declarative bluster and opinion that are easily refuted by the facts of what occurred in actual game play. Three seasons full of games. 42 starts. This is the best you've got? Tyrod's "key throws" didn't win the Atlanta game. A "key" fumble recovery run back for a TD by the defense won that game. Tyrod did throw a 6 yard TD to Charles Clay in the 3rd Q against Denver, so full marks for that. It sure helped that the Bills defense came up with 2 INTs and 2 turnover-on-downs on Denver's last 4 offensive drives in the 2nd half, though. But Taylor did do his job. I'd also give him full credit for the TB game -- hitting Deonte Thompson for 44 to set up McCoy was a big play. One of the few clutch throws he's connected on in his career as a starter, but still a great toss. Those wins are exactly the type of wins you would want from an elite backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Three seasons full of games. 42 starts. This is the best you've got? Tyrod's "key throws" didn't win the Atlanta game. A "key" fumble recovery run back for a TD by the defense won that game. Tyrod did throw a 6 yard TD to Charles Clay in the 3rd Q against Denver, so full marks for that. It sure helped that the Bills defense came up with 2 INTs and 2 turnover-on-downs on Denver's last 4 offensive drives in the 2nd half, though. But Taylor did do his job. I'd also give him full credit for the TB game -- hitting Deonte Thompson for 44 to set up McCoy was a big play. One of the few clutch throws he's connected on in his career as a starter, but still a great toss. Those wins are exactly the type of wins you would want from an elite backup QB. I'm strictly talking about just this season alone. Backup QBs in the NFL make quite a few mistakes to lose their teams games when they play on an extended basis so you again offer a weak argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Show just one example of a backup QB who has a winning record for any extended number of games. I'll be waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm strictly talking about just this season alone. Backup QBs in the NFL make quite a few mistakes to lose their teams games when they play on an extended basis so you again offer a weak argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Show just one example of a backup QB who has a winning record for any extended number of games. I'll be waiting. Edited December 28, 2017 by twoandfourteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, twoandfourteen said: As expected, you have nothing but BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's just funny how some here are legitimately saying Taylor's the 30-35th best QB in the NFL. I want to upgrade, but Taylor's been a welcome surprise in his time in Buffalo. A welcome surprise and a huge disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: As expected, you have nothing but BS. You asked, I answered. By the way, 3rd-stringer Case Keenum says "what's up?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: You asked, I answered. By the way, 3rd-stringer Case Keenum says "what's up?". Tell him I said hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Tell him I said hello. Looks like a backup QB with a winning record over an extended number of games. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said: Looks like a backup QB with a winning record over an extended number of games. What's your point? He has a winning record this year with a really strong team in MIN. Before this season, he was FN terrible with a 9-15 record as a starter and terrible statistics. That's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He has a winning record this year with a really strong team in MIN. Before this season, he was FN terrible with a 9-15 record as a starter and terrible statistics. That's my point. Keenum has a higher value than Taylor in real time. Edited December 28, 2017 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Keenum has a higher value than Taylor in real time. Throwing the football better than a high schooler is a plus More subjective nonsense from you. Edited December 28, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: More subjective nonsense from you. Says the guy whose panties are in a bunch fighting with everyone over the 185 yard qb in the NFL??? Keenum 3,358 yards 21 tds 7 ints Taylor. 2,595 yards 13 tds 4 ints. Buh bye sweetie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Says the guy whose panties are in a bunch fighting with everyone over the 185 yard qb in the NFL??? Keenum 3,358 yards 21 tds 7 ints Taylor. 2,595 yards 13 tds 4 ints. Buh bye sweetie. Taylor's career as a passer: Keenum's career as a passer: Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Taylor's career as a passer: Keenum's career as a passer: Try again. Gm’s have eyes, your mans not hot. Maybe you can buy a team and ruin it by signing Taylor to disenfranchise the wideouts. We get it you bought in because he beat the Broncos. ??? Edited December 28, 2017 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Where are the stats for how many times he checks down instead of throwing to the sticks? Where are the stats of the passes he doesnt throw because he is too conservative? Where are the stats where he runs 15 yards backwards and takes a sack instead of throwing the ball away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Gm’s have eyes, your mans not hot. Maybe you can buy a team and ruin it by signing Taylor to disenfranchise the wideouts. New name, same BS that is refuted by the numbers. Cute sayings that amount to the same drivel you've always offered. Taylor isn't a great QB by any stretch, but he's better than Keenum. The numbers I showed don't include Taylor's rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: New name, same BS that is refuted by the numbers. Cute sayings that amount to the same drivel you've always offered. Taylor isn't a great QB by any stretch, but he's better than Keenum. The numbers I showed don't include Taylor's rushing. Better than Keenum is a good one ??? Welcome to 2017 Mr Refuter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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