PromoTheRobot Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 With their win over Marshall, the Bulls hang on to the #3 seed in the MAC East. This is important becuase top 3 seeds get a bye in the conference tourney. Two games left: on the road against Ohio (a team they should beat) then a tough game at home against #2 seed Akron. 18 wins ties the school record for a season. Congrats to Coach Witherspoon and crew. Let's not stop now. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Good win indeed. That Ohio game on the road isn't a gimme. Ohio has a decent record in the MAC too, and beat us at UB a month ago. I would expect the Bulls to dominate the final home game of the year (senior night) vs. a very good Akron team, a lot like last years final home game vs. Kent St. Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumping platelets Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I wish it was as easy to get tickets to a BB home game as it is for the football I would love to go to one.......no longer a student, just a poor ole alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 You can get tickets at a fairly reeasonable price $10-12 I believe, not a bad price at all to watch a quality college basketball game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I think they are really hitting their stride at the right time, and the fact that they actually "blew out" Marshall last night is a VERY good sign. Nice to have a non-nail biter for a change. The Ohio game will be tough, though revenge for the home loss should be a factor. And then the last home game against Akron is essentially a playoff game, especially given the fact that Akron beat Miami last night and tightened things up at the top of the division. It would be great if they could win the conference tournament and get that automatic bid. If they win out through to the automatic bid, I think they would have be seed right around 10, maybe higher. I certainly think this team is capable of winning out, winning the conference tourney, and even taking a game or two in the NCAA's. But that's getting way ahead of ourselves. GO BULLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hopefully the Kent game (Lose some ?? calls) will not hurt them as the home team, Kent, used Alumni to referee the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I think they are really hitting their stride at the right time, and the fact that they actually "blew out" Marshall last night is a VERY good sign. Nice to have a non-nail biter for a change. The Ohio game will be tough, though revenge for the home loss should be a factor. And then the last home game against Akron is essentially a playoff game, especially given the fact that Akron beat Miami last night and tightened things up at the top of the division. It would be great if they could win the conference tournament and get that automatic bid. If they win out through to the automatic bid, I think they would have be seed right around 10, maybe higher. I certainly think this team is capable of winning out, winning the conference tourney, and even taking a game or two in the NCAA's. But that's getting way ahead of ourselves. GO BULLS! 251060[/snapback] So if they lose at Ohio and then beat Akron, do they still have a shot at the #3 seed and a bye to Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 So if they lose at Ohio and then beat Akron, do they still have a shot at the #3 seed and a bye to Cleveland? 251101[/snapback] I think so, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Can someone brief me on the rules of the MAC tourney? How many teams make it, who gets byes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralVaBills Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I think they are really hitting their stride at the right time, and the fact that they actually "blew out" Marshall last night is a VERY good sign. Nice to have a non-nail biter for a change. The Ohio game will be tough, though revenge for the home loss should be a factor. And then the last home game against Akron is essentially a playoff game, especially given the fact that Akron beat Miami last night and tightened things up at the top of the division. It would be great if they could win the conference tournament and get that automatic bid. If they win out through to the automatic bid, I think they would have be seed right around 10, maybe higher. I certainly think this team is capable of winning out, winning the conference tourney, and even taking a game or two in the NCAA's. But that's getting way ahead of ourselves. GO BULLS! 251060[/snapback] There's no way in hell they will get a #10 seed. That is a good thing. And on top of that, hell will freeze over before they get a higher than #10 seed. And this is good. Trust me, as an avid follower of the MAC, you hope for the #12 seed. There have been MUCH MUCH better teams in previous years from the MAC, and they have gone in as twelve seeds. What cracks me up is that people get infatuated with being like an 8 or 9 seed. Those are the worse seeds in the tourney, because #1 awaits you in the next round. The best place to be is right around #12. To advance to the round of 32, you'd have to basically beat a #20-25 ranked team in the country, and then do it again to get to the round of 16. This is usually why #12 seeds win. You have all of these under-rated conference champs who match up with a bottom tier top-25 team who is probably only ranked based on reputation. Relax about seeds.....I know for a fact that the MAC usually gets a #12 seed, or somewhere close to that out of respect. The MAC usually does well in the NCAA's. IF UB gets in, you hope to be seeded 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralVaBills Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Can someone brief me on the rules of the MAC tourney? How many teams make it, who gets byes, etc. 251329[/snapback] The top three teams in the MAC get a bye into the Quarterfinal Round of Eight teams. The other teams, who are seeded 4-13 battle it out on campus sites to see who advances to the Quarterfinal Round of Eight. In the first round, seeds 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 get home games on campus sites. This will produce 5 winners who then move on with the top three seeds to make 8 teams advancing to the quarters. Then, it's on to Cleveland for some pretty good basketball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 There's no way in hell they will get a #10 seed. That is a good thing. And on top of that, hell will freeze over before they get a higher than #10 seed. And this is good. 251472[/snapback] They could get a 10 if they win out. I agree that a 12 would be the best way to go in, but here is the history of MAC teams in the tourney through 2001, a couple of 10 and 11 seeds in there in the recent past. MAC Teams in the NCAA Tournament2001 San Diego #13 KENT STATE 77, No. 4 Indiana 73 San Diego #5 Cincinnati 66, No. 13 KENT STATE 43 2000 Minneapolis #6 UCLA 65, #11 BALL STATE, 57 1999 St. Louis #3 Kentucky 58, #10 MIAMI 43 New Orleans #10 MIAMI 66, #2 Utah 58 New Orleans #10 MIAMI 59, #7 Washington 58 Boston #6 Temple 61, #11 KENT STATE 54 1998 Chicago, Ill. #11WESTERN MICHIGAN 75, #6 Clemson 72 Chicago, Ill. #3 Stanford 83, #11 Western Michigan 65 Hartford, Conn. #4 Michigan State 83, #13 Eastern Michigan 71 1997 Kansas City, Mo. #4 Clemson 68, #13 MIAMI 56 1996 Indianapolis, Ind. #9 Eastern Michigan 75, #8 Duke 63 Indianapolis, Ind. #1 Connecticut 95, #9 Eastern Michigan 81 1995 Dayton, Ohio #12 MIAMI 71, #5 Arizona 62 Dayton, Ohio #4 Virginia 60, #12 MIAMI 54 (ot) Memphis, Tenn. #5 Arizona St. 81, #12 Ball State 66 1994 Landover, Md. #5 Indiana 84, #12 OHIO 72 1993 Rosemont, Ill. #2 Kansas 94, #15 BALL STATE 72 1992 Cincinnati, Ohio #4 North Carolina 68, #13 MIAMI 63 1991 Sycacuse, N.Y. #12 EASTERN MICHIGAN 76, #5 Mississippi St. 56 Syracuse, N.Y. #12 EASTERN MICHIGAN 71, #13 Penn State 68(OT) East Rutherford, N.J. #1 North Carolina 93, #12 EASTERN MICHIGAN 67 1990 Salt Lake City, Utah #12 BALL STATE 54, #5 Oregon State 53 Salt Lake City, Utah #12 BALL STATE 62, #4 Louisville 60 Oakland, Calif. #1 UNLV 69, #12 BALL STATE 67 1989 Indianapolis, Ind. #9 BALL STATE 68, #8 Pittsburgh 64 Indianapolis, Ind. #1 llinois 72, #9 BALL STATE 60 1988 Lincoln, Neb. #2 Pittsburgh 108, #15 Eastern Michigan 90 1987 Salt Lake City, Utah #4 UCLA 92, #13 CENTRAL MICHIGAN 73 1986 Baton Rouge, La. #3 Memphis State 95, #14 Ball State 63 Minneapolis, Minn. #7 Iowa State 81, #10 MIAMI 79 (OT) 1985 Notre Dame, Ind. #3 Kansas 49, #14 OHIO 38 Dayton, Ohio #5 Maryland 69, #12 MIAMI 68 (OT) 1984 Pulman, Wash. #9 SMU 83, #8 MIAMI 69 1983 Tampa, Fla. #11 OHIO 51, #6 Illinois State 49 Tampa, Fla. #3 Kentucky 57, #11 OHIO 40 1982 Dallas, Texas #5 Kansas State 77, #12 NORTHERN ILLINOIS 68 1981 Tuscaloosa, Ala. #5 Boston College 93, #12 BALL STATE 90 1980 Bowling Green, Ky. #8 Florida State 94, #9 TOLEDO 91 1979 Bloomington, Ind. #5 TOLEDO 74, #4 Iowa 72 Indianapolis, Ind. #1 Notre Dame 79, #5 Toledo 71 1978 Indianapolis, Ind. MIAMI 84, Marquette 81 (OT) Dayton, Ohio Kentucky 91, MIAMI 69 1977 Bloomington, Ind. UNC-Charlotte 91, CENTRAL MICHIGAN 85 (OT) 1976 South Bend, Ind. WESTERN MICHIGAN 77, VA Tech 67 (OT) Baton Rouge, La. Marquette 62, WESTERN MICHIGAN 57 1975 Tuscaloosa, Ala. CENTRAL MICHIGAN 77, Georgetown 75 Dayton, Ohio Kentucky 90, CENTRAL MICHIGAN 73 Dayton, Ohio CENTRAL MICHIGAN 88, Oregon St. 87* 1974 Terre Haute, Ind. Marquette 85, OHIO 59 1973 Dayton, Ohio Marquette 77, MIAMI 62 1972 Knoxville, Tenn. Marquette 73, OHIO 49 1971 South Bend, Ind. Marquette 62, MIAMI 47 1970 Dayton, Ohio Notre Dame 112, OHIO 82 1969 Carbondale, Ill. MIAMI 63, Notre Dame 60 Madison, Wis. Purdue 91, MIAMI 71 Madison, Wis. Kentucky 72, MIAMI 71* 1968 Kent, Ohio Marquette 72, BOWLING GREEN 71 1967 Lexington, Ky. Virginia Tech 82, TOLEDO 76 1966 Kent, Ohio Dayton 58, MIAMI 51 1965 Bowling Green, Ky. Dayton 66, OHIO 65 1964 Evanston, Ill. OHIO 71, Louisville 69 Minneapolis, Minn. OHIO 85, Kentucky 69 Minneapolis, Minn. Michigan 69, OHIO 57+ 1963 Evanston, Ill. BOWLING GREEN 77, Notre Dame 72 East Lansing, Mich. Illinois 71, BOWLING GREEN 68 East Lansing, Mich. Miss. St. 65, BOWLING GREEN 60* 1962 Lexington, Ky. Butler 56, BOWLING GREEN 55 1961 Louisville, Ky. Louisville 76, OHIO 70 1960 Lexington, Ky. OHIO 74, Notre Dame 66 Louisville, Ky. Georgia Tech 57, OHIO 54 Louisville, Ky. Western Kentucky 97, OHIO 87* 1959 Lexington, Ky. Marquette 89, BOWLING. GREEN 71 1958 Evanston, Ill. MIAMI 82, Pittsburgh 77 Lexington, Ky. Kentucky 94, MIAMI 70 Lexington, Ky. Indiana 98, MIAMI 91* 1957 Columbus, Ohio Notre Dame 89, MIAMI 77 1956 Fort Wayne, Ind. Morehead St. 107, MARSHALL 92 1955 Lexington, Ky. Marquette 90, MIAMI 79 1954 Fort Wayne, Ind. Penn State 62, TOLEDO 50 1953 Fort Wayne, Ind. DePaul 74, MIAMI 72 +Regional championship game; *Regional consolation game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralVaBills Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 They could get a 10 if they win out. I agree that a 12 would be the best way to go in, but here is the history of MAC teams in the tourney through 2001, a couple of 10 and 11 seeds in there in the recent past. 251495[/snapback] I posted that yesterday, and there's no way in hell UB gets anywhere near a #10 seed if they get in. Also, that doesn't include the last three years in which the MAC even has more success. Kent State's run to the Elite Eight isn't indicated in what you posted. The MAC is actually down this year. It was also down from what it normally is last year too. UB simply doesn't have any big time wins to get them that seed. They also have no tournament history, and they won't be the conference champs. NO WAY IN HELL would they be #10. Matter of fact, if UB doesn't win the MAC but wins the MAC auto qualifier, they would most likely be #13. It's just how it goes. Again though, that is a good thing. You guys are new to this I can tell. You have to think, a few years ago (2002), Ball State was a 20 win MAC team, with victories over UCLA, Kansas, and Butler. They also, just before halftime, was leading Duke. They had the Duke lead in single digits for much of the second half, before bowing out late, and that didn't get them in the NCAA tourney. UCLA, Kansas and Duke were all in the top 10. It's a tough spot to be in, but IF you can sneak in, MAC teams usually are the one's to do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 You guys are new to this I can tell. 251526[/snapback] New to following the NCAA tourney? No. New to having my alma mater having a legit shot at getting in at this point in the season? Definitely, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralVaBills Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 New to following the NCAA tourney? No. New to having my alma mater having a legit shot at getting in at this point in the season? Definitely, yes. 251596[/snapback] I hear ya. I hope you make it, outside of Ball State of course. I always root for the MAC in the tourney, no matter who gets in. I'm also pretty versed at MAC history when it comes to this thing! Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 New to following the NCAA tourney? No. New to having my alma mater having a legit shot at getting in at this point in the season? Definitely, yes. 251596[/snapback] Yep...me too. Watching them on ESPN2 a couple of weeks ago was absolutely amazing. When I was up there, UB's biggest game was the Buff State game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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