Alaska Darin Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 FoxNews Reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartacus Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 But...But...they SUPPORT THE TROOPS without supporting the war!!! Cant you SEE that? No? Okay then, let me switch to plan B; No Blood for Oil? Halliburton? Bush is a simpleton yet brilliant Nazi? Mission Accomplished? Let me tune into Air America for more talking points....be back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 FoxNews Reports 249541[/snapback] Oh come on, are you suggesting that 11 year olds can't have informed and reasoned opinions of their own about geopolitical issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Oh come on, are you suggesting that 11 year olds can't have informed and reasoned opinions of their own about geopolitical issues? 251240[/snapback] If Sean Penn is any example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 FoxNews Reports 249541[/snapback] I'll withhold final judgement until I'm told precisely what the nature of the social studies assignment was...though I'm finding it hard to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt in assuming there could be a constructive point in having sixth-graders compose hate-mail to soldiers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 All these little snot-nosed bastard children should be handed rifles and sent to the front lines. Good luck kiddies. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 I'll withhold final judgement until I'm told precisely what the nature of the social studies assignment was...though I'm finding it hard to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt in assuming there could be a constructive point in having sixth-graders compose hate-mail to soldiers... 251344[/snapback] All I can say it, he/she's lucky my kid wasn't in that class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Those letters should have been directed to their politicians and not to the soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Those letters should have been directed to their politicians and not to the soldiers. Good point KH. One can support the soldiers but not support the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Good point KH. One can support the soldiers but not support the war. 256039[/snapback] By no means am I supporting the letters, please don't get me wrong. This is an interesting topic that could lead to a lot of well thought out debates about policy, support and what not. Unfortunately, it would get real emotional and heated... Hence, turn ugly. I am unwilling to go there... Only this far. Respectfully, EII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 If Sean Penn is any example... 251242[/snapback] Geeze, where were all the Aids ribbons on the Hollywood elite last night. Friggin band wagon jumping Pats fans, thats what they are. Like Aids has somehow gone away or something............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Geeze, where were all the Aids ribbons on the Hollywood elite last night. Friggin band wagon jumping Pats fans, thats what they are. Like Aids has somehow gone away or something............... 256254[/snapback] Apparently AIDS has jumped the shark. Really, they only have so much angst. That means it can't be spread out over too many causes, lest it get too thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 By no means am I supporting the letters, please don't get me wrong. This is an interesting topic that could lead to a lot of well thought out debates about policy, support and what not. Unfortunately, it would get real emotional and heated... Hence, turn ugly. I am unwilling to go there... Only this far. Respectfully, EII 256077[/snapback] What are you afraid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 By no means am I supporting the letters, please don't get me wrong. This is an interesting topic that could lead to a lot of well thought out debates about policy, support and what not. Unfortunately, it would get real emotional and heated... Hence, turn ugly. I am unwilling to go there... Only this far. Respectfully, EII 256077[/snapback] Please expound! I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 What are you afraid of? 256353[/snapback] ^^^^^^^^The winged monkeys!^^^^^^^^ Look at the post above, I see Eryn hovering! I just think it would be interesting dicussion to talk about support vs. policy, historical analysis. I just don't want to get in a heated emotional, patriotic, anti-America talk... The rhetoric is not what it is about. Anyway, I don't float too many LAMPS out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventualchamps Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Good point KH. One can support the soldiers but not support the war. 256039[/snapback] That's great - Hey soldier, I'm behind you 100%, but....errrr......when you go out every day and risk your life and see your buddies losing limbs and dying, it's absolutely meaningless - but hey, I'm behind you 100%, here's some sunscreen and lip balm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 That's great - Hey soldier, I'm behind you 100%, but....errrr......when you go out every day and risk your life and see your buddies losing limbs and dying, it's absolutely meaningless - but hey, I'm behind you 100%, here's some sunscreen and lip balm. Yes - I can support the troops and still be against the war. My first husband was in Viet Nam and I was against that war. My son is in Iraq. I'm entitled to my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventualchamps Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Yes - I can support the troops and still be against the war. My first husband was in Viet Nam and I was against that war. My son is in Iraq. I'm entitled to my opinion. 265528[/snapback] I'm fully agree that you are entitled to your opinion - heck that's what America represents - freedom. I would never deny anyone their thoughts or opinions. I have family that have fought in every war going back to WWI and have family in the Middle East now. My opinion (which you have every right to disagree with) is that you truly cannot stand behind the troops 100% when you do not support their cause - aka, You can't have your cake and eat it too. How disheartning it is for these guys and gals to be over there and read about the protests, op eds stating that it's a war for oil, etc. - Once again, these people have a right to their opinions, but if that's your idea of support - no thanks. I honestly may be so jaded in my beliefs that I'm not seeing something. Let me ask you this - how would you explain your view to an individual getting ready to deploy overseas in harms way? Secondly, do you think the individual would think you are supporting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Christians, Muslims, Jews have been fighting in the middle east for thousands of years - it will prove to be an unwinnable war which won't go away until the locals want it to. Look at all the lives we lost in Viet Nam - only to finally withdraw and lose anyway. I respect and support my son's desire to serve his country - I have raised him to be a patriot. However, my basic belief is that in the long run, violence doesn't solve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 My opinion (which you have every right to disagree with) is that you truly cannot stand behind the troops 100% when you do not support their cause - aka, You can't have your cake and eat it too. How disheartning it is for these guys and gals to be over there and read about the protests, op eds stating that it's a war for oil, etc. - Once again, these people have a right to their opinions, but if that's your idea of support - no thanks. 266104[/snapback] This makes no sense to me. Your theory makes the soldiers sound like mindless robots. I have, and have had, relatives in the military. They are smart enough to both follow orders, AND (not publicly) question the value of their depolyments. It seems to me that a good soldier follows orders, but he doesn't turn off his brain. I'm sure a lot of soldiers in Iraq are risking their lives despite their internal misgivings about the cause. They can understand that the citizens of the US can support them but not the cause, because some soldiers undoubtably do not support the cause as well. Soldiers are more effective when they are following orders AND support a cause, but that's not always the nature of being in the military. I'd be curious for our vet's views on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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