YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) DeForest Buckner scored a wonderlic score of 9 according to that combine buzz report from the packers beat writer Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 No idea why people are enamored with small line backers running good 40 times. Lee weighs what 230? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) No idea why people are enamored with small line backers running good 40 times. Lee weighs what 230?yes, 232 I though josh perry's time of 2.68 at 6'4 254 was more surprising, but Lee is explosive all around (11'1 broad jump). He ran faster than all but I think 2 WRs this year, most of which are well below 232, and faster than Zeke Elliott, who is in the 220s. Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 No idea why people are enamored with small line backers running good 40 times. Lee weighs what 230? I'm not enamored with him for running a 40 time but it furthers my point of being a versatile LB who can play safety. A small LB who has shown that he can effectively cover RBs, TEs, and even slot WRs. A guy who can be physical on the perimeter, blitz off the edge and can play multiple positions in a scheme known for its complexity and player versatility. Hope that answers your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm not enamored with him for running a 40 time but it furthers my point of being a versatile LB who can play safety. A small LB who has shown that he can effectively cover RBs, TEs, and even slot WRs. A guy who can be physical on the perimeter, blitz off the edge and can play multiple positions in a scheme known for its complexity and player versatility. Hope that answers your question Yeah he offers something different than guys like Brown and Bradham but his combine numbers are going to be overvalued. Lee, Floyd, remind me of guys like Mingo. Elite athletes that are going to do some amazing things physically. See also Marquise Goodwin. Combine heros. No way I'm jumping Lee up into our range in round one like Mayock and company are spouting off. He is the same player as he was just last week. Smallish LB who will be asset in space and a liability any time he is caught inside. At 19 take one of the stud Dline players that will be left. yes, 232 I though josh perry's time of 2.68 at 6'4 254 was more surprising, but Lee is explosive all around (11'1 broad jump). He ran faster than all but I think 2 WRs this year, most of which are well below 232, and faster than Zeke Elliott, who is in the 220s. He is explosive I just see him struggling to say healthy at the next level, if he adds 20 lbs of pump his explosion is going to be affected. As you listed Perry, that is a great example of height and weight being in proportion with his numbers. Perry to me offers more draft value than a guy like Lee who will be over drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Yeah he offers something different than guys like Brown and Bradham but his combine numbers are going to be overvalued. Lee, Floyd, remind me of guys like Mingo. Elite athletes that are going to do some amazing things physically. See also Marquise Goodwin. Combine heros. No way I'm jumping Lee up into our range in round one like Mayock and company are spouting off. He is the same player as he was just last week. Smallish LB who will be asset in space and a liability any time he is caught inside. At 19 take one of the stud Dline players that will be left. He is explosive I just see him struggling to say healthy at the next level, if he adds 20 lbs of pump his explosion is going to be affected. As you listed Perry, that is a great example of height and weight being in proportion with his numbers. Perry to me offers more draft value than a guy like Lee who will be over drafted. i want to lay money on Perry going to the Pats in the 2nd or 3rd. His roommate just started working for the Pats as a scout. And Perry just looks like a Pats LB to me. Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 i want to lay money on Perry going to the Pats in the 2nd. His roommate just started working for the Pats as a scout. And Perry just looks like a Pats LB to me. That's as good a guess as any with Mayo retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 That's as good a guess as any with Mayo retiring.i think could be second or third round if he lasts. Since they don't have a 1st, they might go OL or WR in 2nd. I love that they don't have a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 To me Perry is a 2nd round pick. I don't think he last to 64. I think he goes around 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 i think could be second or third round if he lasts. Since they don't have a 1st, they might go OL or WR in 2nd. I love that they don't have a 1st. Yeah I live in Boston I love it as much as anyone could... They are still whining about losing the picks. Waiting that long to pick in a draft like this must really suck, the locals want to trade Chandler Jones for the 30th pick or whatever. I hope we go DL in the first then just follow the value through the rest of the draft. As Whaley said we really can draft any position and that should help. Perhaps we can draft a player or two outside of the ACC lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Scooby Wright tested in the 3rd SPARQ percentile at LB. Nick O'Leary of linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Eli Apple 4.4 in first attempt, 4.42 second attempt He's 6'1 201 James Bradberry 1st unofficial forty: 4.46. 10 yd of 1.54 At 221 Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) 4.54 for my boy KJ Dillon. 1.60 10-yd split. Great numbers for a 210lb safety. DeAndre Houston-Carson - 4.55, 1.56 10-yd split. Edited February 29, 2016 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) These DB times are FAST especially compared to the WR times Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Top 40s among 1st group of DBs: Jonathan Jones of Auburn: 4.33 T.J. Green of Clemson: 4.34 Anthony Brown of Purdue: 4.35 Eli Apple's official 40 time was 4.40. Fifth among DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Tyvis! 4.47 is a great time! He's got size too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Tyvis! 4.47 is a great time! He's got size too. Cash run yet?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Cash run yet?!i don't think so - think I heard he might not run @nfldraftscout Worth noting: 2nd group of players do all their jumps before running, which explains some slower times consistently in 2nd group Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Top Combine 40 times: Keith Marshall 4.31 Will Fuller 4.32 Jonathan Jones 4.33 T.J. Green 4.34 Anthony Brown 4.35 William Jackson 4.37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 List of combine participants that tested "in the red", which is old-school scout-talk for when a guy's bench press reps, inches of vertical jump, and feet of broad jump distance add up to 70 or above (it's supposed to measure the guys that have elite-level explosiveness): Daniel Lasco - RB/Cal (75.3) Andy Janovich - FB/Nebraska (73.9) Dan Vitale - FB/Northwestern (78.8) Sterling Shepard - WR/Oklahoma (71.3) Connor McGovern - OL/Missouri (75.1) Jason Spriggs - OL/Indiana (72.1) Noah Spence - EDGE/E. Kentucky (70.1) Matt Judon - EDGE/Grand Valley State (74.1) Dean Lowry - EDGE/Northwestern (72.0) Yannik Ngakoue - EDGE/Maryland (70.3) Robert Nkemdiche - DL/Ole Miss (72.67) Sheldon Rankins - DT/Louisville (72.33) B.J. Goodson - LB/Clemson (74.3) Miles Killebrew - S/Southern Utah (70.6) Also, some very noteworthy 10-yard-splits: Sterling Shepard (again) - 1.55 Will Fuller - 1.52 Emmanuel Ogbah - 1.59 (that's WR speed for a 273-lb guy) Noah Spence (again) - 1.62 Shaq Lawson - 1.64 Kenny Clark - 1.72 (sick for a nose tackle) Darron Lee - 1.55 Leonard Floyd - 1.60 Jalen Ramsey - 1.52 Williams Jackson III - 1.52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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