Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 What does one have to do with the other? Some would say that allowing criminals back into society is a bad thing and ones time would be better spent securing this nation against terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Some would say that allowing criminals back into society is a bad thing Those people would be morons. and ones time would be better spent securing this nation against terrorism. Explain how this would be accomplished. Include detailed information about how spending time at a prison detracts from those efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Those people would be morons. Explain how this would be accomplished. Include detailed information about how spending time at a prison detracts from those efforts. You think allowing criminals out of their cells is a good idea? Say hello to the warden for me when they let you out in the yard for exercise this afternoon.I'm speaking from the perspective of a person that's not incarcerated. A president can effect changes in national security.I would explain but it would be better if you did your own research.The time spent enacting this change would be time better spent than deciding how to overturn our judges and police agencies work trying to keep our law abiding citizens safe. Edited July 17, 2015 by Very wide right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 You think allowing criminals out of their cells is a good idea? Say hello to the warden for me when they let you out in the yard for exercise this afternoon.I'm speaking from the perspective of a person that's not incarcerated. A president can effect changes in national security.I would explain but it would be better if you did your own research.The time spent enacting this change would be time better spent than deciding how to overturn our judges and police agencies work trying to keep our law abiding citizens safe. Why not just admit you have absolutely no idea how the world actually works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Why not just admit you have absolutely no idea how the world actually works? I think most people agree that criminals belong in jail.Thats why the socialist state of New york just had a massive man hunt for two escapees.Your thinking is in the minority I assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 What does one have to do with the other? Nothing. But Very Wide Right doesn't do critical thinking. It's too much for his tiny brain to process. Why not just admit you have absolutely no idea how the world actually works? Because that would require VWR to be honest. Something else he struggles with on top of critical thinking. It's actually amazing he can breathe and blink at the same time without overloading his tiny, tiny, brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 You think allowing criminals out of their cells is a good idea? Say hello to the warden for me when they let you out in the yard for exercise this afternoon.I'm speaking from the perspective of a person that's not incarcerated. Most non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be in prison to begin with, neither should a large amount of "third strike" lifers, nor should many individuals serving penalties associated with mandatory minimums. Incarceration, as it is currently applied in the US, is an incredible waste of tax dollars. It is also, in many cases, completely unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Most non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be in prison to begin with, neither should a large amount of "third strike" lifers, nor should many individuals serving penalties associated with mandatory minimums. Incarceration, as it is currently applied in the US, is an incredible waste of tax dollars. It is also, in many cases, completely unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Most non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be in prison to begin with, neither should a large amount of "third strike" lifers, nor should many individuals serving penalties associated with mandatory minimums. Incarceration, as it is currently applied in the US, is an incredible waste of tax dollars. It is also, in many cases, completely unjust. LOL, please allow me to challenge you to think a little deeper.After these "non violent drug offenders" are successful getting their clients addicted to the life destroying drug of choice or those who just enjoy their daily crack or heroin fix fall apart, who do you think pays THAT bill? Yes that's right,the US taxpayer, the same people who's houses are broken into or cars are stolen to support the drug habits of these "non-violent drug offenders".Before you parrot these ridiculous liberal ideas you should stop and think things through.I would also submit that it would be "completely unjust" to expect any community to have to endure the costs both financial and or personal due to the stupidity of releasing those who have committed serious crimes.Now go ahead an parrot some ridiculous liberal personal attack comeback, it's always good for a laugh. Edited July 17, 2015 by Very wide right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 LOL, please allow me to challenge you to think a little deeper.After these "non violent drug offenders" are successful getting their clients addicted to the life destroying drug of choice or those who just enjoy their daily crack or heroin fix fall apart, who do you think pays THAT bill? Yes that's right,the US taxpayer, the same people who's houses are broken into or cars are stolen to support the drug habits of these "non-violent drug offenders".Before you parrot these ridiculous liberal ideas you should stop and think things through.I would also submit that it would be "completely unjust" to expect any community to have to endure the costs both financial and or personal due to the stupidity of releasing those who have committed serious crimes.Now go ahead an parrot some ridiculous liberal personal attack comeback, it's always good for a laugh. Why is "non violent drug offenders" in quotes? I know you think drugs are the devil's milk and our society will crash if we don't "drop the hammer" on every non violent criminal who dares to live life differently than you, but these ARE non violent offenses. Or are you unable to debate things honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 LOL, please allow me to challenge you to think a little deeper.After these "non violent drug offenders" are successful getting their clients addicted to the life destroying drug of choice or those who just enjoy their daily crack or heroin fix fall apart, who do you think pays THAT bill? Yes that's right,the US taxpayer, the same people who's houses are broken into or cars are stolen to support the drug habits of these "non-violent drug offenders".Before you parrot these ridiculous liberal ideas you should stop and think things through.I would also submit that it would be "completely unjust" to expect any community to have to endure the costs both financial and or personal due to the stupidity of releasing those who have committed serious crimes.Now go ahead an parrot some ridiculous liberal personal attack comeback, it's always good for a laugh. Prison sentences should be reserved for individuals offending against other persons against their will or against private property. What consenting adults choose to ingest is no business of yours. I'll also opine that it's hilarious that you've lumped burglary, a violent crime, in with non-violent offenses. Also, why do you presume that it is the roll of tax payers to provide drug offenders with health care and other resources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Prison sentences should be reserved for individuals offending against other persons against their will or against private property. What consenting adults choose to ingest is no business of yours. I'll also opine that it's hilarious that you've lumped burglary, a violent crime, in with non-violent offenses. Also, why do you presume that it is the roll of tax payers to provide drug offenders with health care and other resources? Because he has no idea how the world actually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Prison sentences should be reserved for individuals offending against other persons against their will or against private property. What consenting adults choose to ingest is no business of yours. I'll also opine that it's hilarious that you've lumped burglary, a violent crime, in with non-violent offenses. Also, why do you presume that it is the roll of tax payers to provide drug offenders with health care and other resources? What consenting adults choose to ingest might be my business if I find them in my house at 4am trying to steal, also those consenting adults aren't likely to hold a job and then its certainly my business when the welfare checks start rolling out to support the family .The fact that you don't understand that there is a solid connection between drug use and theft is laughable and speaks volumes demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge of the struggles that communities endure from the drug trade.The idea that an individual addicted to drugs just lives a normal lifestyle and performs perfectly well for an employer is fantasy.Speak to any police officer about the effects of drugs in society and you'll start to understand.Yeah I know,Police are bad.................but criminals are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 What consenting adults choose to ingest might be my business if I find them in my house at 4am trying to steal, also those consenting adults aren't likely to hold a job and then its certainly my business when the welfare checks start rolling out to support the family .The fact that you don't understand that there is a solid connection between drug use and theft is laughable and speaks volumes demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge of the struggles that communities endure from the drug trade.The idea that an individual addicted to drugs just lives a normal lifestyle and performs perfectly well for an employer is fantasy.Speak to any police officer about the effects of drugs in society and you'll start to understand.Yeah I know,Police are bad.................but criminals are good. All people who use drugs steal? Is that really what you want to go with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) What consenting adults choose to ingest might be my business if I find them in my house at 4am trying to steal What they choose to ingest isn't your business, them being in your house is. Further, them being in your house is burglary, which is a violent crime, which means that those individuals would not be non-violent offenders. Try again. also those consenting adults aren't likely to hold a job and then its certainly my business when the welfare checks start rolling out to support the family. A reason to support the elimination of welfare, or mandatory drug testing for those using the social safety net. Not a reason to keep non-violent drug offenders in prison. And while we're on the topic on tax payer dollars, you're failing to take into consideration the costs of incarceration. Given that this is a Buffalo Bills website, I'll use the state of NY as an example. According to a national study conducted by the VERA Institute of Justice in 2010, the costs of incarcerating an inmate for a single year in the state of New York exceeded $60,000. The fact that you don't understand that there is a solid connection between drug use and theft is laughable and speaks volumes demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge of the struggles that communities endure from the drug trade. Again, we're talking about non-violent drug offenders. Stop talking about violent crimes. The idea that an individual addicted to drugs just lives a normal lifestyle and performs perfectly well for an employer is fantasy.Speak to any police officer about the effects of drugs in society and you'll start to understand.Yeah I know,Police are bad.................but criminals are good. You're an idiot. Edited July 17, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Because he has no idea how the world actually works. Then you and him have a lot in common. Actually, you probably are him under a different name. Arguing with yourself, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Then you and him have a lot in common. Actually, you probably are him under a different name. Arguing with yourself, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dorkington Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Most non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be in prison to begin with, neither should a large amount of "third strike" lifers, nor should many individuals serving penalties associated with mandatory minimums. Incarceration, as it is currently applied in the US, is an incredible waste of tax dollars. It is also, in many cases, completely unjust. It's not often we agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I'm saving that one lol lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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