TSNBDSC Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 ... if Jim Kelly were to say that JP Losman "doesn't have it in him" to be even a good Quaterback, how would that effect you ? ... would it change your mind regarding JP ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 JP would probably say, "This is from a man that lost four staight Superbowls, so I don't take all that much stock in his comments." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 ... if Jim Kelly were to say that JP Losman "doesn't have it in him" to be even a good Quaterback, how would that effect you ? ... would it change your mind regarding JP ? ... 234571[/snapback] I'm guess you're about to drop a "bombshell" quote on us? And I love Jimbo (in a non-gay football fan way), but even if he did say it, he's a great QB, not a scout. I'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 JP would probably say, "This is from a man that lost four staight Superbowls, so I don't take all that much stock in his comments." 234612[/snapback] LOL, i think that statment would almost demand JP being traded to the cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Jim is the man, but I still laugh when I remember him calling Quinn Early the "next Andre Reed" back in 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 On one hand, yes - it's Jim Kelly - and he's seen a few QBs up close and should have some sense of a QBs potential. On the other hand, it's the bread and butter of the pro personnel staff to determine if a player has what it takes. They're the ones that test him, interview him, give him the full looksee at the combine, and have reviewed hours of game tape. JPL must've had a good scouting report. They made the decision in concert with the coaches and Donahoe to get into the 1st round to get this guy. Bottom line: If I had to take Kelly's word or the Bills' staff on a player, I'd have to go with the staff. If ex-players where THAT incredibly astute at picking players, they'd be getting offered big bucks to help select draft choices and FAs. That said - an unproven player/draft choice is still a crapshoot. How they'll pick up on NFL speed, terminology, and overall maturity is an inexact science. Whatever Kelly has to say would obviously have more merit than the average joe, but still...take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 LOL, i think that statment would almost demand JP being traded to the cardinals. 234622[/snapback] Why???? I would think that it would show he wouldn't back down to anybody. Even a HOF Bills QB like Kelly. If Kelly did say those things than I would WANT Losman to attack Kelly's record. It's only fair if he were to disparage this kid before he even plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdipirro Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 What is the relevance of this post??? Did JK actually make these comments or was that a purely hypothetical situation???? If you want to make this kind of post a topic of discussion please clarify whether this was fact or just something you were making up. If this is an actual quote please give a link to your source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBills12 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 What is the relevance of this post??? Did JK actually make these comments or was that a purely hypothetical situation???? If you want to make this kind of post a topic of discussion please clarify whether this was fact or just something you were making up. If this is an actual quote please give a link to your word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I've heard Kelly say nothing of the sort -- and the last statement I heard from him (months ago) was that he thought J.P. was "going to be a good one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 This post belongs in the "Stupid Hypotheticals" forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Another thing: I cannot see JK openly ripping JP at this time....first of all JP does not have enough experience to draw up a accurate assessment, and secondly, why would JK say something that would annoy the team he played for??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#89 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 JP is doing Kelly's kids football camp. He must like the kid and thinks he has what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 What if Jim Kelly said JP is going to be a hall of famer and break all his Bills records?? Would you be excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 This thread blows. But since we're talking hypothetically, if you had one less rib... would you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 What if Jim Kelly said, "tsnbd is mildly retarded." Would it change your board status? I say NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 ... if Jim Kelly were to say that JP Losman "doesn't have it in him" to be even a good Quaterback, how would that effect you ? ... would it change your mind regarding JP ? ... 234571[/snapback] Are you kidding me? What is your next hypothetical going to be, "If we get 2 number 1 picks for Travis Henry, do you think we made a mistake trading him instead of Willis?" -or- "If tsnbd posts another thread like this would you start using your ignore feature?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 This thread blows. But since we're talking hypothetically, if you had one less rib... would you??? 234882[/snapback] too much work for something i can get some female to do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinVA Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 too much work for something i can get some female to do for me 234974[/snapback] Now I get it. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 Are you kidding me? What is your next hypothetical going to be, "If we get 2 number 1 picks for Travis Henry, do you think we made a mistake trading him instead of Willis?" -or- "If tsnbd posts another thread like this would you start using your ignore feature?" 234958[/snapback] ... why the venom ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 ... why the venom ? ... 235043[/snapback] First of all just the assumption that I might change my opinion about someone by one person’s comments; insults me. I think you confused venom with my sense of sarcasm. I never mean ill will toward a fellow Waller. To be fair I did preface my comments with, "Are you kidding me?" I was hoping you were. I don't know how someone can even come up with a scenario like that? That being said, I do respect your opinion, just don't be surprised if someone calls it a foolish opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 First of all just the assumption that I might change my opinion about someone by one person’s comments; insults me. I think you confused venom with my sense of sarcasm. I never mean ill will toward a fellow Waller. To be fair I did preface my comments with, "Are you kidding me?" I was hoping you were. I don't know how someone can even come up with a scenario like that? That being said, I do respect your opinion, just don't be surprised if someone calls it a foolish opinion. 235080[/snapback] ... my apologies ... tough day today ... i appreciate the time you took to explain ... tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 So what was the deal with the thread, tom? Did you hear Kelly say that, or was it a hypothetical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 So what was the deal with the thread, tom? Did you hear Kelly say that, or was it a hypothetical? 235125[/snapback] ... something i heard from a reliable source ( deep throat ! ) from JK ... i was taken aback by it and wanted to hear some opinions on it ... true JK is not an nfl scout, but his word does carry some weight ... i should have been more clearer in my post ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 ... something i heard from a reliable source ( deep throat ! ) from JK ... i was taken aback by it and wanted to hear some opinions on it ... true JK is not an nfl scout, but his word does carry some weight ... i should have been more clearer in my post ... 235139[/snapback] Well then I'm not being sarcastic when I say, "OK you know more than me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 ... i have to learn to post better ! ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Well even though I think JP has a TON to prove, Kelly's comments could be due to any number of reasons. Maybe JP wasn't respectful to JK or made some comment about losing 4 SB's? I don't know, so we'll just have to wait and see. I hope JP makes it but like I said, he's got a LOT to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 To this point Kelly seems to lean toward thinking JP should start. Obviously, he is not going to suddenly change his mind and state that Losman does not have it in him to be even a good QB without seeing him play next season. If JP's play is such that it would inspire Kelly to change his mind about Losman, I imagine that JP supporters would already have changed theirs. Fans seem to be more fickle than those who've been inside the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Jim WAS the man but he was never known as a deep thinker. He was a great QB but why WNY'ers continue hang on his every word is beyond me. I could care less what he has to say abhout anything, let alone JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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