Jkgobills Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Cardinals put up less than 75 yards of offense in a playoff game today. Lowest total in the history of the NFL! Just when we Bills fans thought we have been through the depths of hell with our QB situation for the past many, many years the Cardinals show us just how bad it can be. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 ...or retires before it starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) So you're saying Orton is better than the Cardinals third string QB??? Yeah, I'd say that's probably accurate. Edited January 4, 2015 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 So you're saying Orton is better than the Cardinals third string QB??? Yeah, I'd say that's probably accurate. Yes....and that you can go the playoffs and win a game with a guy like Orton.....despite his obvious limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg17 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yes....and that you can go the playoffs and win a game with a guy like Orton.....despite his obvious limitations. Provided the opponent has a sub .500 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yes....and that you can go the playoffs and win a game with a guy like Orton.....despite his obvious limitations. Orton took over when the Bills were 2-2. And last time I checked, they didn't go to the playoffs with him. Or did I miss something during the last week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Orton took over when the Bills were 2-2. And last time I checked, they didn't go to the playoffs with him. Or did I miss something during the last week?? All of this. Playoffs ? Try beating the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Orton took over when the Bills were 2-2. And last time I checked, they didn't go to the playoffs with him. Or did I miss something during the last week?? Exactly, apparently you cannot go to the playoffs and win with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Cardinals didn't get to the playoffs with a "guy like Orton", though. Drew Stanton and Ryan Lindley lost 5 of the Cards final 7 games after Carson Palmer was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Super Bowl Starting QBs since we haven't made the playoffs. Some first ballot hall of famers, and some who are not. If we can't get a hall of famer, with a great defense you still have a shot. 2001: Trent Dilfer Kerry Collins 2002: Tom Brady Kurt Warner 2003: Brad Johnson Rich Gannon 2004: Tom Brady Jake Delhomme 2005: Tom Brady Donovan McNabb 2006: Ben Roethlisberger Matt Hasselbeck 2007: Peyton Manning Rex Grossman 2008: Eli Manning Tom Brady 2009: Ben Roethlisberger Kurt Warner 2010: Drew Brees Peyton Manning 2011: Aaron Rodgers Ben Roethlisberger 2012: Eli Manning Tom Brady 2013. Colin Kaepernick Joe Flacco 2014. Russel Wilson Peyton Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Orton? You mean EX-QUARTERBACK Kyle Orton? Tough to win a playoff game when you're retried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Super Bowl Starting QBs since we haven't made the playoffs. Some first ballot hall of famers, and some who are not. If we can't get a hall of famer, with a great defense you still have a shot. 2001: Trent Dilfer Kerry Collins 2002: Tom Brady Kurt Warner 2003: Brad Johnson Rich Gannon 2004: Tom Brady Jake Delhomme 2005: Tom Brady Donovan McNabb 2006: Ben Roethlisberger Matt Hasselbeck 2007: Peyton Manning Rex Grossman 2008: Eli Manning Tom Brady 2009: Ben Roethlisberger Kurt Warner 2010: Drew Brees Peyton Manning 2011: Aaron Rodgers Ben Roethlisberger 2012: Eli Manning Tom Brady 2013. Colin Kaepernick Joe Flacco 2014. Russel Wilson Peyton Manning Another way of looking at it: the worst QB to win a Super Bowl in the last 10 years is Eli Manning (or Joe Flacco, take your pick). The worst QB to even take his team to a Super Bowl in the last 6 years is Eli Manning (or Flacco). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton went to a Super Bowl was 2007 (Grossman). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton won a Super Bowl was 2001 (Dilfer, since Brad Johnson was a cut above Orton). It is still almost all about the QB ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section242 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Another way of looking at it: the worst QB to win a Super Bowl in the last 10 years is Eli Manning (or Joe Flacco, take your pick). The worst QB to even take his team to a Super Bowl in the last 6 years is Eli Manning (or Flacco). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton went to a Super Bowl was 2007 (Grossman). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton won a Super Bowl was 2001 (Dilfer, since Brad Johnson was a cut above Orton). It is still almost all about the QB ... I'd say Kaepernick is worse than Eli and Flacco, and it really isn't close. The Cardinals would've had a better chance with Jeff Tuel than Lindlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'd say Kaepernick is worse than Eli and Flacco, and it really isn't close. The Cardinals would've had a better chance with Jeff Tuel than Lindlay. Probably will wind up being true on Kaepernick, although too soon to tell. And yes, Lindley was clearly worse than Thad Lewis, and I'll give you Tuel too. That was just awful. Back when Stanton went down I said bring in Tebow, and I wasn't kidding ... with no NFL quality QB to turn to, they'd have done better just doing what the Broncos did in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfan62 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Cardinals put up less than 75 yards of offense in a playoff game today. Lowest total in the history of the NFL! Just when we Bills fans thought we have been through the depths of hell with our QB situation for the past many, many years the Cardinals show us just how bad it can be. Wow. I thought it was 77 yds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Cardinals didn't get to the playoffs with a "guy like Orton", though. Drew Stanton and Ryan Lindley lost 5 of the Cards final 7 games after Carson Palmer was hurt. We had Palmer for 2 days----oh wait that was the other Palmer !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 We had Palmer for 2 days----oh wait that was the other Palmer !! Hah! Actually, the other Palmer really couldn't have been worse. I just don't understand why the Cards limped into the playoffs with Lindley ... when Stanton went down and it looked serious, I was sure they'd bring in someone else, anyone else ... it would have been worth a try, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 So the bills shouldn't hire cards OC then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Another way of looking at it: the worst QB to win a Super Bowl in the last 10 years is Eli Manning (or Joe Flacco, take your pick). The worst QB to even take his team to a Super Bowl in the last 6 years is Eli Manning (or Flacco). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton went to a Super Bowl was 2007 (Grossman). The last time a QB the quality of a Kyle Orton won a Super Bowl was 2001 (Dilfer, since Brad Johnson was a cut above Orton). It is still almost all about the QB ... I agree with you completely, and if the Bills had one of the future HOF QBs on that list we would all be discussing the playoff picture as it relates to the Bills. The best the Bills can do for next year is Jake Delhomme/ Rex Grossman/ brad Johnson/ Trent Dilfer/ Rich Gannon/ Matt Hasselbeck based on who is on the roster currently, who will be available in Free Agency, and what might come available in a trade. It's not pretty, but it might be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Cardinals would've had a better chance with Jeff Tuel than Lindlay. If the Cardinals had picked up Thaddeus Lewis before the Texans did, they would have won today. Of course losing Ellington has hurt their offense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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