yungmack Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I have to agree. Anyone who thought EJ was an NFL quarterback is lacking a lot of knowledge. The guy obviously had no talent at FSU. Then to be so convinced that EJ is going to take us to the playoffs this year? Only to get him bench four games in? Unbelievable. Also remember this team passed on the Dalton's and Wilson's of the league. We do need to bring in a consultant to find a qb. Pay Jon gruden - he meets with all those college QBs anyways. Pay Peyton manning and Eli manning - they meet these kids at their camp. Broaded the search, what we have always done is clearly not working Not sure if your post is supposed to be funny, is supposed to be serious, or a reaction to egg nog gone bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) So you can play well and still lose? That's a new one on me based on a decade-plus worth of posts on the subject here at TBD. I thought the iron clad rule of QB play is that winners win and losers lose. I'm asking you what your point is about Sam Bradford. Do you believe that because he didn't win more than 7 games in St Louis in 2012 he played bad? Edited December 29, 2014 by BlueFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Quality GM's don't make the Watkins trade. I like Sammy and I give Whaley credit for having the balls to make that move, but you can't make that trade when your QB's are Manuel, Thad, and Tuel. + Again, BINGO. And then all but admit your mistake by waiting until the week before the opening game to cut them lose for Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills-fan in arizona Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The season Bradford plays well will be the first. I'm sure many will disagree, but in my opinion Bradford is a franchise guy who has been held up by a series of injuries. If he becomes available we should jump all over the chance to bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 We are discussing Whaley. Whaley was not here 6 years ago. and HOW long has Whaley been here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 You need to WATCH the games and watch Bradford, like a scout would. The guy is a good QB. He might never be great, but could easily be in the 2nd quartile of NFL starting QB's. That alone would give Bills 11-wins and playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I think Whaley is doing a good job. I would love to have Polian come in as a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills-fan in arizona Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 You need to WATCH the games and watch Bradford, like a scout would. The guy is a good QB. He might never be great, but could easily be in the 2nd quartile of NFL starting QB's. That alone would give Bills 11-wins and playoffs. I agree 100% with this. I know what I see with this guy and he can play, his issue is (and it's a big one) is injury. But IMHO, the time and money is worth the shot at hitting it big on this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 and HOW long has Whaley been here??? As GM? 2 years. Been in a coma lately? I'm asking you what your point is about Sam Bradford. Do you believe that because he didn't win more than 7 games in St Louis in 2012 he played bad? My point is the metric for what makes a QB good here on TBD changes with the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 As GM? 2 years. Been in a coma lately? Dudes been here for 5 season. You can't absolve him of everything, Wake up call to PTR. Buffalo Bills[edit] Doug Whaley was named Assistant General Manager/Director of Pro Personnel of the Buffalo Bills on February 10, 2010. Whaley oversees the team’s Pro Personnel department and assisted General Manager Buddy Nix in all football-related administrative duties and in the college talent evaluation process until Nix stepped down from the General Manager position on May 13, 2013. Whaley became Buffalo's GM three days later.[2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Thank you Captain Optimism. Let's just see how things play out before all the doom and gloom. I don't think Orton would have been the starter next year anyway and I think he probably knew it. Is it EJ? Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell, but there is a very long off season before we will know who our next QB will be and if it will be the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Dudes been here for 5 season. You can't absolve him of everything, Wake up call to PTR. Buffalo Bills[edit] Doug Whaley was named Assistant General Manager/Director of Pro Personnel of the Buffalo Bills on February 10, 2010. Whaley oversees the team’s Pro Personnel department and assisted General Manager Buddy Nix in all football-related administrative duties and in the college talent evaluation process until Nix stepped down from the General Manager position on May 13, 2013. Whaley became Buffalo's GM three days later.[2] Just because he was in the building doesn't make him directly responsible for draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Whaley's QB's E.J. Manuel* Jeff Tuel* Thad Lewis Dennis Dixon Matt Leinart Jordan Palmer Kyle Orton And based on the upcoming FA QB crop, that list is probably going to get a whole lot uglier. * Can attempt to use Nix as scapegoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The complaining without a reasonable solution needs to stop. Amen. There are way too may GMs on this board who's only qualifications are that they've over a 1000 posts on these boards. Orton had to go and now that he's retiring it's the end of the world!!! Please can we stop the madness. Jeez, enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Just because he was in the building doesn't make him directly responsible for draft picks. Welcome to the land of "Lack of Accountability". Your tour guide is PTR. Whaley's not responsible. Brandon's not responsible. Nix's not responsible. Oh wait, it must be the fans that are responsible. After all, we expect to be in the playoffs once a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Welcome to the land of "Lack of Accountability". Your tour guide is PTR. Whaley's not responsible. Brandon's not responsible. Nix's not responsible. Oh wait, it must be the fans that are responsible. After all, we expect to be in the playoffs once a decade. Hahahahaha. You are all nuts. Go grab your torches and pitchforks. I'm not debating crazy people anymore. Remember when Nix was GM? he was responsible from 2010 to 2013. How about Tom Donahoe from 2001 to 2005? He was responsible then. Doug Whaley? 2013 onward. Tom Donahoe is no more responsible for drafting EJ Manual than Doug Whaley is for drafting JP Losman. Edited December 30, 2014 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutting Drew With Dignity Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hahahahaha. You are all nuts. Go grab your torches and pitchforks. I'm not debating crazy people anymore. Why debate others with legitimite criticisms based on real outcomes when you have the opportunity to whisk away 'Coach Sal' to a comfy New Year's lovemest. Guess what? Coach Nate is providing the backrubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why debate others with legitimite criticisms based on real outcomes when you have the opportunity to whisk away 'Coach Sal' to a comfy New Year's lovemest. Guess what? Coach Nate is providing the backrubs! Let me know when blaming anyone in the building at OBD equals legitimate criticism. Sounds more like frustration in search if a scapegoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 @ChrisBrownBills: The #Bills have signed players with practice squad ties to futures contracts. Includes QB Jeff Tuel, all will be in fold for 2015 offseason. As long as Coach Marrone is HC of the Bills Tuel Time will have a job in Buffalo for some unknown reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutting Drew With Dignity Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 As long as Coach Marrone is HC of the Bills Tuel Time will have a job in Buffalo for some unknown reason. Mike Caussin says 'Hi' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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