Oberyn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Never seen such blind devotion in my life to a mediocre journeyman qb who won 3 games by the skin of his teeth as bills fans to King Orton. I hope you are all FINALLY ready to admit that he was put in by a coaching staff desperate to save their own jobs at the expense of the future growth of this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 https://vimeo.com/111815871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberyn Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't know about you guys, but I base all my football knowledge on what Deion Sanders says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Man I got flamed all week for being critical about him. I was told by several people that I don't anything about football because I was critical over Orton. Outside the Jets game, he has led this team to 15 points per game in the other 5 games against Det, NE, Minn, KC, and Miam with 6 TDs and 5 Turnovers. I am used to it...I got flamed by most the same people when I was critical about Trent after a 4-0 start and Fitz when he took over for Trent the next year, and again the following year when he was 4-2. Now today its all en vogue to complain about Orton as if everyone knew all along lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberyn Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Trust me bro, i've been against him since day one. Not that I have anything against Orton but after being discarded by 4 teams, you know he probably isn't a long term answer. It seemed obvious to me that the better long term solution for this team was to find out what they had in EJ so they know how to approach the 2015 draft rather than finish 8-8. But unfortunately the coaching staff decided that at 8-8 they might be able to save their jobs. If you doubt it you can check out my tweets to bills media figures complaining to them about how their analysis pinned blame on everyone but Orton whereas even when EJ was 2-0 at the beginning of the season they would kill him with every review they wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 https://vimeo.com/111815871 In case you are to lazy to click the link. Dion Sanders states after the game. The play calling was horrible, it had nothing to do with Orton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't know about you guys, but I base all my football knowledge on what Deion Sanders says. I trust a HOF player over Oberyn everyday and twice on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I trust a HOF player over Oberyn everyday and twice on Sundays. Ok, so whats Deions excuse for Orton against KC? How about Det where his pick 6 almost lost us the game? Or NE where his INT did lose us the game? Or Minn where he was subpar until the last drive against a 2-4 team and a rookie QB making his first road start? I think I will trust my eyes, his 15 pts per game average outside the Jets game, his 6 TDs and 5 Turnovers in the 5 games outside the Jets game. The stupid Jets game inflates his numbers and people look at his stat line and think he's doing great and also carefully ignores his fumbles and sacks. People see near 300 yards and think he had a great game. 300 yards is not a big deal in todays NFL, you can get 60% of that on 2 good drives then suck the rest the game and still get to 300. Its the most over inflated stat in all football. He has not been good, and was at worse against the good teams...just like I predicted after the Minn game. We WONT beat good teams with the level of play by him and the offense...and we haven't. There is a reason coming into tonight he was the TWENTY NINTH rated QB using the more accurate QBR score. He will be even lower come Monday. There is a reason we are worse this year in every meaningful offensive category than last year despite having more talent and experience with less injuries. And Orton has started 60% of the season and the offense decent week 1 and good week 2 before Orton. Edited November 14, 2014 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 He wasn't the savior. He was our best chance to win. He still is. He's not great, and hasn't been good lately. But he's still better than EJ. You have to go with your best chance to win while you are in it. Now, after these past few weeks and now that we are out of it. I don't know that I don't know if EJ doesn't get another chance so we know for a fact that we have to find a QB somehow, some way in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 http://vimeo.com/111815871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Put ej back in... ortorn always has been and always will be a bum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Ok, so whats Deions excuse for Orton against KC? How about Det where his pick 6 almost lost us the game? Or NE where his INT did lose us the game? Or Minn where he was subpar until the last drive against a 2-4 team and a rookie QB making his first road start? I think I will trust my eyes, his 15 pts per game average outside the Jets game, his 6 TDs and 5 Turnovers in the 5 games outside the Jets game. The stupid Jets game inflates his numbers and people look at his stat line and think he's doing great and also carefully ignores his fumbles and sacks. People see near 300 yards and think he had a great game. 300 yards is not a big deal in todays NFL, you can get 60% of that on 2 good drives then suck the rest the game and still get to 300. Its the most over inflated stat in all football. He has not been good, and was at worse against the good teams...just like I predicted after the Minn game. We WONT beat good teams with the level of play by him and the offense...and we haven't. There is a reason coming into tonight he was the TWENTY NINTH rated QB using the more accurate QBR score. He will be even lower come Monday. There is a reason we are worse this year in every meaningful offensive category than last year despite having more talent and experience with less injuries. And Orton has started 60% of the season and the offense decent week 1 and good week 2 before Orton. Who is the only QB to have back to back single digit QBR games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) In case you are to lazy to click the link. Dion Sanders states after the game. The play calling was horrible, it had nothing to do with Orton! Phil Simms "i don't care who's quarterbacking he has no chance" this is how you know who watched and who just wants to blame Edited November 14, 2014 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Who is the only QB to have back to back single digit QBR games? What does any of that have to do with the questions I asked you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Ok, so whats Deions excuse for Orton against KC? How about Det where his pick 6 almost lost us the game? Or NE where his INT did lose us the game? Or Minn where he was subpar until the last drive against a 2-4 team and a rookie QB making his first road start? I think I will trust my eyes, his 15 pts per game average outside the Jets game, his 6 TDs and 5 Turnovers in the 5 games outside the Jets game. The stupid Jets game inflates his numbers and people look at his stat line and think he's doing great and also carefully ignores his fumbles and sacks. People see near 300 yards and think he had a great game. 300 yards is not a big deal in todays NFL, you can get 60% of that on 2 good drives then suck the rest the game and still get to 300. Its the most over inflated stat in all football. He has not been good, and was at worse against the good teams...just like I predicted after the Minn game. We WONT beat good teams with the level of play by him and the offense...and we haven't. There is a reason coming into tonight he was the TWENTY NINTH rated QB using the more accurate QBR score. He will be even lower come Monday. There is a reason we are worse this year in every meaningful offensive category than last year despite having more talent and experience with less injuries. And Orton has started 60% of the season and the offense decent week 1 and good week 2 before Orton. You seem to be comparing Orton to the rest of the league instead of who's on the roster. We cannot acquire any other active QB. Thus, Orton is our best option at QB. So what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Orton is our best option at QB. Yep his brand of .500 is better huh ? Cut that bum today. Shades of Fitz, lucky fins dropped that horrible pick 6. Orton could have been worse somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 What does any of that have to do with the questions I asked you? You seem to be comparing Orton to the rest of the league instead of who's on the roster. We cannot acquire any other active QB. Thus, Orton is our best option at QB. So what's your point? The option is #3 or #18. My question is pointing out that you may have forgotten that #3 was playing at a historically horrible level. Where #18 is playing at a bad in the range of normal outcome level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 My question is pointing out that you may have forgotten that #3 was playing at a historically horrible level. He was 2-2. Orton is 3-3. Stop being a dolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finfanfromrochester Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 If you would've asked me after the first half, I would've said Orton was playing much better than Tannehill. But that was partly because our D line didn't pressure him once in the first half. The second half was like an entirely new ballgame. He got rattled early and often, and you could just tell he wasn't the same QB after that. His throws became increasingly inaccurate as he anticipated the pressure more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 He was 2-2. Orton is 3-3. Stop being a dolt. A dolt would look solely at record then start name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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