Alaska Darin Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 4 picks (they didn't have a 3rd) in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNose76 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 TD sure knew how to draft em when he was with Pittsburgh ehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 5 picks in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. 219775[/snapback] And that's why Chuck Noll was never considered as coach of the year - it fell in his lap and when he had the horses he never substituted players even if he was up by 20 in the fourth...Bradshaw's backup, Cliff Stout, qualified for an NFL pension having never taken a snap in a regular-season game, and when the horses got burnt out, Pgh had several years' worth of crappy teams because Noll never gave the bench playing time. Noll et al did make a good move in swapping up with the Bills and tapping Ron Woodson - the Bills picked the good but short-lived Shane Conlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 4 picks (they didn't have a 3rd) in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. 219775[/snapback] Hymen never could thrust his way onto the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm73 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 4 picks (they didn't have a 3rd) in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. 219775[/snapback] W O W !!!! how often are there even four HOFers in one draft, let alone all four going to one team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 4 picks (they didn't have a 3rd) in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. 219775[/snapback] Ahhhh, Gary Marangi. In the words of my father, the only good thing about that mutherfugger is the fact that he's Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I'd nominate the Draft of 1983 as the worst in history in that that though the players were some of the best in history led by the QBs such as Bills fave Jim Kelly, John Elway and Dan Marino and even RBs like Eric Dickerson I'd rank its effects as bad for the history of the game as the coincidence of these stud QBs occuring while others like SF had Joe Montana has contributed to the psychosis that unless you draft a stud QB in the 1st round you will never win the SB. Ironically, the exact opposite has proved to be the case as the last team to drafty a QB in the 1st round who led that team to an SB win was Dallas picking Aikman in 1989. I hope McNabb breaks this streak this year because I would hate to see it fall upon JP to do it even though he may be just an exception that proves the rule. Drafting stud QBs in the 1st is has simply been a non-winning investment for the past decade and a half plus and the marketing momentum of the 1983 draft is a big part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Though JP being picked at 22 overall is a far cry from a McNabb, Manning, Aikman, Leaf, Palmer, Akili Smith, Tim Couch.... all of whom were selected among the Top 3 overall. The comparative investment differs by an order of magnitude. I'd nominate the Draft of 1983 as the worst in history in that that though the players were some of the best in history led by the QBs such as Bills fave Jim Kelly, John Elway and Dan Marino and even RBs like Eric Dickerson I'd rank its effects as bad for the history of the game as the coincidence of these stud QBs occuring while others like SF had Joe Montana has contributed to the psychosis that unless you draft a stud QB in the 1st round you will never win the SB. Ironically, the exact opposite has proved to be the case as the last team to drafty a QB in the 1st round who led that team to an SB win was Dallas picking Aikman in 1989. I hope McNabb breaks this streak this year because I would hate to see it fall upon JP to do it even though he may be just an exception that proves the rule. Drafting stud QBs in the 1st is has simply been a non-winning investment for the past decade and a half plus and the marketing momentum of the 1983 draft is a big part of this. 219829[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 W O W !!!! how often are there even four HOFers in one draft, let alone all four going to one team? 219813[/snapback] Four (or more) HOFers have been drafted in one draft 16 times to date. The Steelers are the only team to have drafted more than 2 players in a single draft that were later enshrined. Seven teams have drafted 2 players in a single draft that were later enshrined: Browns (3 times, though Chuck Noll isn't in for his playing career), Steelers (twice), Packers (twice), Bears, Chiefs, Eagles, and Redskins. 1945: (5) Charley Trippi, Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch, Pete Pihos, Tom Fears, Arnie Weinmeister 1949: (5) Chuck Bednarik, Doak Walker, Norm Van Brocklin, Jim Fink, George Blanda 1951: (4) Bill George, Mike McCormack, Jack Christiansen, Don Shula 1952: (4) Ollie Matson, Hugh (The King) McElhenny, Frank Gifford, Gino Marchetti, Yale Lary 1953: (8) Doug Atkins, John Henry Johnson, Bob St. Clair, Stan Jones, Jim Ringo, Joe Schmidt, Chuck Noll, Roosevelt (Rosey) Brown 1957: (8) Paul Hornung, Len Dawson, Jim Brown, Jim Parker, Tommy McDonald, Sonny Jurgensen, Henry Jordan, Don Maynard 1961: (7) Billy Shaw, Mike Ditka, Jimmy Johnson, Herb Adderley, Bob Lilly, Fran Tarkenton, Deacon Jones 1963: (5) Buck Buchanan, Bobby Bell, John Mackey, Nick Buoniconti, Jackie Smith 1964: (8) Bob Brown, Charley Taylor, Carl Eller, Paul Warfield, Mel Renro, Paul Krause, Dave Wilcox, Leroy Kelly 1965: (4) Fred Biletnikoff, Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, Joe Namath 1967: (4)Alan Page, Gene Upshaw, Lem Barney, Willie Lanier, Ken Houston 1968: (5) Ron Yary, Larry Csonka, Elvin Bethea, Art Shell, Bob Griese 1969: (4) O.J. Simpson, Joe Greene, Ted Hendricks, Charles Joiner 1971: (4) John Riggins, Jack Youngblood, Jack Ham, Dan Dierdorf 1976: (4) Lee Roy Selmon, Mike Haynes, Jackie Slater, Steve Largent 1981: (4) Lott, Long, L.T., Singletary 1983 will have four once Marino is inducted (Elway, Dickerson, Kelly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 The players the Bills drafted that year didn't end up in the HoF, But they were "fine young men". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 In 1974, the Pittsburgh Steelers picked Lynn Swann in the first, Jack Lambert in the 2nd, John Stallworth in the 4th, and Mike Webster in the 5th. FOUR NFL Hall of Famers in 4 picks (they didn't have a 3rd) in one draft. BTW, the BILLS had shots at all of these players. Instead we picked: Rueben Gant (Swann), Doug Allen (Danny White, Dave Casper, and Lambert), Gary Marangi (Mark Van Eeghen, Nat Moore, Stallworth), Charlester Crumpler , Gary Hayman, and Tim Guy (all picked before Webster). Damn. 219775[/snapback] The 49ers 1986 draft is another that many consider one of the finest. As Walsh drafted Rathman, McKyer, Taylor in the 3rd, Haley, Wallace, Fagan in the 4th. Griffen in the 6th. Making it more impressive was Walsh's ability to trade down and get these guys. On a sidenote I think without a doubt we can all agree the Bills best draft was in 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Though JP being picked at 22 overall is a far cry from a McNabb, Manning, Aikman, Leaf, Palmer, Akili Smith, Tim Couch.... all of whom were selected among the Top 3 overall. The comparative investment differs by an order of magnitude. 219835[/snapback] Agreed there is a big difference between the folks viewed as franchise picks at the beginning of the 1st and folks at the bottom who like Nate Clements were seen as solid starter hopes but not world beaters. The oddity about QBs (which I think has a lot to do with the marketing of QBs, is that from the top to the bottom of the 1st round no QB pick has led his team to the SB since Dallas chose Aikman in 1989. Whether they are first oicks like Manning or late picks like Pennington, they certainly have a lot of glitz in their production and despite the many total QB busts like Leaf, Smith, Ware, Couch et. they at least have some record of playoff qualification. Yet, when it comes to the ultimate goal these 1st round picks fall completely short of the mark whether at the top of the round or the bottom. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Ahhhh, Gary Marangi. In the words of my father, the only good thing about that mutherfugger is the fact that he's Italian. 219820[/snapback] That's nothing to brag about, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 The oddity about QBs (which I think has a lot to do with the marketing of QBs, is that from the top to the bottom of the 1st round no QB pick has led his team to the SB since Dallas chose Aikman in 1989. Whether they are first oicks like Manning or late picks like Pennington, they certainly have a lot of glitz in their production and despite the many total QB busts like Leaf, Smith, Ware, Couch et. they at least have some record of playoff qualification. Yet, when it comes to the ultimate goal these 1st round picks fall completely short of the mark whether at the top of the round or the bottom. Go figure. 220392[/snapback] Trent Dilfer in '01. Close enough, tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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