MDH Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Woo hoo we are playing great during yet another meaningless game in December! Call me when this team actually is in playoff contention at this time of the year. Not only have they missed the playoffs 14 years in a row, they haven't had a meaningful game in December in 10 years. It is pathetic and fans have the right to be cynical at this point. Getting excited over beating the Dolphins to go to 6 and freaking 9 is supposed to be some sort of consolation? That is laughable! Get in the !@#$ing playoffs !@#$s! If you're going to B word when things go poorly (and by all means do so) then you should also praise them when they play well. Otherwise you're just a miserable cuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Win out and keep it rolling next year. Only in fantasy land. The Buffalo Bills continue to screw themselves with regard to the 2014 NFL draft. Likely the Bills will end up in last place in the AFC East this year. No playoffs. This time next week the win over the Jaguars and Dolphins will mean absolutely nothing positive. If you're going to B word when things go poorly (and by all means do so) then you should also praise them when they play well. Otherwise you're just a miserable cuss. Nice time to start playing well. When the season is already OVER!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Only in fantasy land. The Buffalo Bills continue to screw themselves with regard to the 2014 NFL draft. Likely the Bills will end up in last place in the AFC East this year. No playoffs. This time next week the win over the Jaguars and Dolphins will mean absolutely nothing positive. Nice time to start playing well. When the season is already OVER!!!!! I think we can safely put you in the miserable cuss section of the studio audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 If you're going to B word when things go poorly (and by all means do so) then you should also praise them when they play well. Otherwise you're just a miserable cuss. Actually I am a fan I have watched pretty much every game since I was 6 years old. So that is 26 years I have consistently been watching and forgive me if I don't get excited about a meaningless win in December when the team has missed the playoffs 14 freaking years in a row. I used to be Mr. positive and always thinking this team was on the rise. That started to end around year 11 or 12. Now I don't give a **** about moral victories or finishing the year strong. When this team makes the freaking playoffs I will be happy. Hell I would be happy with a game in week 16 that had playoff implications that didn't mean spoiling the playoffs chances of someone else. So call me whatever the hell you want but 14 years of this pathetic **** has made me cynical and I am not going to cheer lead for moral victories in December every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I think we can safely put you in the miserable cuss section of the studio audience. The second that the Buffalo Bills were officially eliminated from the playoffs last week the most important thing for this team was the 2014 NFL draft. Period! So what do the Bills do? They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars and then they beat the Miami Dolphins. Both victories only worsen our 2014 draft position. Actually I am a fan I have watched pretty much every game since I was 6 years old. So that is 26 years I have consistently been watching and forgive me if I don't get excited about a meaningless win in December when the team has missed the playoffs 14 freaking years in a row. I used to be Mr. positive and always thinking this team was on the rise. That started to end around year 11 or 12. Now I don't give a **** about moral victories or finishing the year strong. When this team makes the freaking playoffs I will be happy. Hell I would be happy with a game in week 16 that had playoff implications that didn't mean spoiling the playoffs chances of someone else. So call me whatever the hell you want but 14 years of this pathetic **** has made me cynical and I am not going to cheer lead for moral victories in December every year. Bravo! You are a very bright Buffalo Bills fan. People around here just can't see things long term. Meaningless wins in December when the Bills are already out of the playoffs are even less than meaningless. These victories only make the 2014 draft position WORSE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The second that the Buffalo Bills were officially eliminated from the playoffs last week the most important thing for this team was the 2014 NFL draft. Period! So what do the Bills do? They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars and then they beat the Miami Dolphins. Both victories only worsen our 2014 draft position. Bravo! You are a very bright Buffalo Bills fan. People around here just can't see things long term. Meaningless wins in December when the Bills are already out of the playoffs are even less than meaningless. These victories only make the 2014 draft position WORSE!!! The one who can't see things long term is you. What would it say about this coaching staff if they couldn't get a team to show up to play? That the team quite on them? What use is a slightly higher draft pick when a coaching staff like that is in control of the team? The fact that the team is playing hard only portends better things for the Bills. Sure, it doesn't guarantee anything and they might suck next year but if this team had quit two weeks ago I'd have no hope for them next year no matter what pick in the draft they had. But hey, go ahead and be pissed off because the Bills won. More power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The one who can't see things long term is you. What would it say about this coaching staff if they couldn't get a team to show up to play? That the team quite on them? What use is a slightly higher draft pick when a coaching staff like that is in control of the team? The fact that the team is playing hard only portends better things for the Bills. Sure, it doesn't guarantee anything and they might suck next year but if this team had quit two weeks ago I'd have no hope for them next year no matter what pick in the draft they had. But hey, go ahead and be pissed off because the Bills won. More power to you. Hope all you want, I am done with that. This organization is an embarrassment and will remain that way until they make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 But hey, go ahead and be pissed off because the Bills won. More power to you. I'm not PO'd that the Bills won. I'm PO'd that the Bill started winning when they were already out of the playoffs. Was today's victory only the first time this season that the Bills won two games in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) in the aFC baring a major comeback by OAK to beat SD and BAL to beat NE..... going tinto next week its MIA, SD, and BAL all 8-7 PIT at 7-8 (if win today--lose they are out) A 3 way tie it goes to MIA BAL W & SD or MIA lose MIA W & SD win SD W & MIA and BAL lose all 3 lose and PIT win for 8-8 then PIT in. In the NFC..... AZ won today..... SF plays on Monday AZ needs to win next week and either have NO lose week 17 or SF lose on Monday. NO win and in SF win and in SF win last 2 and SEA lose, SF wins division. GB losing....they are still alive Detroit losing eliminates them Chicago wins clinches the division tonight...a loss---then GB/CHI still means winner gets the division title. PHL/DAL next week still is winner take all. Edited December 23, 2013 by djp14150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The second that the Buffalo Bills were officially eliminated from the playoffs last week the most important thing for this team was the 2014 NFL draft. Period! So what do the Bills do? They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars and then they beat the Miami Dolphins. Both victories only worsen our 2014 draft position. Bravo! You are a very bright Buffalo Bills fan. People around here just can't see things long term. Meaningless wins in December when the Bills are already out of the playoffs are even less than meaningless. These victories only make the 2014 draft position WORSE!!! Your crusade is insane. Winning games against divisional rivals to close out the season is important for player morale and helps the team develop for next year. Having players play well now and go out on a high note is more important than two or three draft slots. If the team can identify talent, it will draft well, and it is important that the incoming draft class joins a culture of players who feel that they are on the cusp of success, which beating New England in an important will do. Get some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 CBS Sports: 2013 NFL Playoff Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 CBS Sports: 2013 NFL Playoff Picture That explains nothing......it just shows is the playoffs started today---but the fact is in the AFC nobody controls their own fate for the wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 That explains nothing......it just shows is the playoffs started today---but the fact is in the AFC nobody controls their own fate for the wild card. Miami still controls their own fate, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The second that the Buffalo Bills were officially eliminated from the playoffs last week the most important thing for this team was the 2014 NFL draft. Period! So what do the Bills do? They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars and then they beat the Miami Dolphins. Both victories only worsen our 2014 draft position. Bravo! You are a very bright Buffalo Bills fan. People around here just can't see things long term. Meaningless wins in December when the Bills are already out of the playoffs are even less than meaningless. These victories only make the 2014 draft position WORSE!!! Your logic is flawed, pearl. Winning with the players you have on your roster is ALWAYS important. Their are star players all over the NFL that were available to be drafted by the Bills over the years. They drafted other players. It's not draft position that matters in many cases, it's WHO you draft when your time on the clock comes around. Sure, "better" draft position may have landed the Bills Peyton Manning or Cam Newton. They never had a chance at them. But the Bills could have had Drew Brees, Cutler, Andy Dalton, Haloti Ngata, Cushing, Witten, Gronkowski, et al. A veritable who's who of stars. Draft position doesn't guarantee the Bills will make the right selections. Every win counts for this team, especially in the division where they have been few and farther between over recent seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 People around here just can't see things long term. Meaningless wins in December when the Bills are already out of the playoffs are even less than meaningless. These victories only make the 2014 draft position WORSE!!! I think you are dead wrong. You have to remember that winning a game takes more than just skilled players. A lot of winning comes from the mental side of the game. The mental side of the game is where these wins come into play. When the Bills play the Dolphins next year, they will go into those games with an attitude like this "Hey..we beat these guys twice last year...we can beat them again" That gives them a mental advantage. The Dolphins will be silently thinking "Man we can't beat these guys for some reason." Part of the reason why the Bills haven't won in New England in so long is because it is hard to break a losing streak. The Bills players go into that game with the idea in the back of their minds "We can't beat these guys here. We never win here." Then they just wait for something to go wrong in the game that proves they were right again. They accept losing because they are so used to losing there. You need to change that as soon as possible. You want to win because wins beget more wins. You want to be a good team year in and year out. You want to have a culture where it is normal to win. That is part of the reason that good teams stay good and losing teams have a hard time turning things around. This game is not just about talent. That is why there are upsets every week. There is more to this game than just who has the most number one draft picks on their roster. You know this is true. Winning is more important than anything in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The only correlation that carries over from one season to the next for non-playoff teams is close losses. Those teams that miss out on the playoffs but are in contention for many of the games have a good shot at making the playoffs. Winning down the stretch doesn't help. But I would argue dropping a few spots in a draft is not that big a deal. Guys get drafted higher and lower than projected all the time. A few spots means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The only correlation that carries over from one season to the next for non-playoff teams is close losses. Those teams that miss out on the playoffs but are in contention for many of the games have a good shot at making the playoffs. Winning down the stretch doesn't help. But I would argue dropping a few spots in a draft is not that big a deal. Guys get drafted higher and lower than projected all the time. A few spots means nothing. Beating the Patriots in a game that has playoff implications (we can knock them down to the three seed) would a huge step forward for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Miami still controls their own fate, I believe. Nobody controls ther own fate in the AFC MIA w, BAL w Sd w---MIA--better conference record MIA w BAL w SD l--BAL---H2H win MIA W BAL L SD W- MIA--H2H win MIa W BAL L SD L--MIA MIA L, BAL w Sd w---BAL--better conference record MIA L BAL w SD l--BAL MIA L BAL L SD W- SD MIa L BAL L SD L---IF PIt W then PIT, then BAL--why--Jets beat MIA , Jets in 2nd, PIt W, BAL L, PIT in 2nd, PIT win a Jes-tPIT-SD tiebreaker because of conference record. The only correlation that carries over from one season to the next for non-playoff teams is close losses. Those teams that miss out on the playoffs but are in contention for many of the games have a good shot at making the playoffs. Winning down the stretch doesn't help. But I would argue dropping a few spots in a draft is not that big a deal. Guys get drafted higher and lower than projected all the time. A few spots means nothing. There is actually a strong correlation to teams that finish strong the season before. for example CAR started off last year slow but finished strong. It also depends on how stable there coaching staff and players on the team are. Edited December 23, 2013 by djp14150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 SF W on MNF NO W AZ W/SF L---NO #5 SF #6 NO W AZ L/Sf W--SF #5 NO #6 NO L AZ W/SF L--SF # 5 AZ #6 NO L AZ L/SF W--SF #5 NO #6 IF SEA L to STL and SF W then SF win division and SEA is seed #5 IF NO wins, and CAR L then NO wins division, and CAR is a WC SF L on MNF NO W AZ W/SF L--NO #5 AZ #6 NO W AZ L/Sf W-- NO #5 SF #6 NO L AZ W/SF L--AZ #5 NO #6 NO L AZ L/SF W-- SF #5 NO #6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Kelso Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Woo hoo we are playing great during yet another meaningless game in December! Call me when this team actually is in playoff contention at this time of the year. Not only have they missed the playoffs 14 years in a row, they haven't had a meaningful game in December in 10 years. It is pathetic and fans have the right to be cynical at this point. Getting excited over beating the Dolphins to go to 6 and freaking 9 is supposed to be some sort of consolation? That is laughable! Get in the !@#$ing playoffs !@#$s! Technically their first game in December this year was a "meaningful" game they just happened to play as though it wasn't. However, it did have playoff implications and they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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