Future Opponents

[NoSaint]

Home Away is not always rotated sir

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=23 Raiders H, H, A, A, H, H, H, H, H, A, A, H, H

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=20 Saints H, A, H, A, A, H, H, A, A

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=28 Seattle H, H, A, H, A, A, A, H, A, A, A, A,

 

its a quirk in my book because in 15 years since the nfl adopted its current scheduling format they have made a single change to it and that was re-pairing the west coast teams to balance travel so you dont have to play in SF and SEA, or OAK and SD in the same year - that and i pointed out the change to the SYSTEM not the change to random games previously. Its literally the only deviation from the system since the league went to 32 teams, and by proxy the only example you would get. hence you pulled oakland and seattle.

 

the saints example you posted you have to go back to 1992 to break the pattern which is PRE league expansion and the current format.

 

the point of the whole system is that over time, its dumb luck if you play a good team any given year, home or away, etc.... minus the two games they assigned as a nudge towards parity to fill the gap between 14 preassigned simply by playing full divisions and 16 games played.

Edited October 22, 2013 by NoSaint

[BillsFan-4-Ever]

its a quirk in my book because in 15 years since the nfl adopted its current scheduling

 

Do I have to show you all 32 sir? If their is a pattern in the last 15 years, the one I see most is H, A, H, H, A,

 

http://www.footballd.......?tm=4&opp=3 Blt - H, A, H, A, A, A

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=7 Cinci - H, A, A, H, H, A, A, H, H, A

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=14 Colts - A, H, A, H, H, A, A, H

 

http://www.footballd......&opp=26 SD - A, H, H, A, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=31 Titans - H, H, A, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=10 Denver - H, A, H, H, A, H, A, H, prior to 15 years H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H , H, ...........

 

 

 

http://www.footballd...ml?tm=4&opp=5 Car - H, A, H, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...ml?tm=4&opp=1 Az - A, A, H, A, H, H, A, A, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=2 Atl - A, H, A, H, H, A, A, H, H, A

Edited October 24, 2013 by BillsFan-4-Ever

[Matt in KC]

Do I have to show you all 32 sir? If their is a pattern in the last 15 years, the one I see most is H, A, H, H, A,

 

http://www.footballd.......?tm=4&opp=3 Blt - H, A, H, A, A, A

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=7 Cinci - H, A, A, H, H, A, A, H, H, A

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=14 Colts - A, H, A, H, H, A, A, H

 

http://www.footballd......&opp=26 SD - A, H, H, A, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=31 Titans - H, H, A, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=10 Denver - H, A, H, H, A, H, A, H, prior to 15 years H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H , H, ...........

 

 

 

http://www.footballd...ml?tm=4&opp=5 Car - H, A, H, H, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...ml?tm=4&opp=1 Az - A, A, H, A, H, H, A, A, A, H

 

http://www.footballd...&opp=2 Atl - A, H, A, H, H, A, A, H, H, A

Baltimore works. 2001 looks like it should have had a Home game for he Bills, but I just read here that the current rotation started in 2002.

 

Cincinnati work too.

 

Indi works too.

 

What specifically do you think doesn't match the scheduling pattern at this link since 2002? Or were you looking back before 2002?

http://johnnyroadtrip.com/schedules/nfl_future_afce.htm

 

Remember, the Home vs Away alternates every 3 years for all AFC teams, the between years if they are played (based on previous year's division rank) follow a different alternation: A-A-H-H-A-A-H-H.

[NoSaint]

 

Baltimore works. 2001 looks like it should have had a Home game for he Bills, but I just read here that the current rotation started in 2002.

 

Cincinnati work too.

 

Indi works too.

 

What specifically do you think doesn't match the scheduling pattern at this link since 2002? Or were you looking back before 2002?

http://johnnyroadtrip.com/schedules/nfl_future_afce.htm

 

Remember, the Home vs Away alternates every 3 years for all AFC teams, the between years if they are played (based on previous year's division rank) follow a different alternation: A-A-H-H-A-A-H-H.

 

ah - it was 2002? fair enough. i just knew the system existed, didnt go back and look at the year.

Edited October 24, 2013 by NoSaint

[Just Jack]

Yea, going back 15 years is too much. The current rotation as mentioned started in 2002, so using one of BF4E links, Denver, since 2002 was...

 

2002 Away

2005 Home

2007 Home

2008 Away

2011 Home

 

So next time should be an Away game.

[cvanvol]

That's not always true.

 

For example, Buffalo has gone to Arizona for the last two times they have played. And the Bills haven't played in Seattle since they crushed them in 2004 (anyone remember the fake qb sneak by Bledsoe, then toss to McGahee for the TD? Wish they would run that again!). Last two games against them have been at home (well, one in Toronto last year, but you get the idea).

 

 

I love this play! It was a Fake FB dive though. I really wish they did that with Fred and CJ in the backfield to get some space for CJ

[djp14150]

Does anyone know what teams we will be playing the next couple of years?

 

outside of divisional teams.....

 

2014: AFC West, NFC North

2015: AFC South NFC East

2016: AFC North NFC West

 

this cycle should go through 2017.

 

the first cycle was 2002-2009, then the second 8 season cycle is 2010-2017 which assures a home and home against all teams.

 

In 2017 they will play the same teams in the NFC south they are this year except in opposite location

 

the other 2 teams are positional offonents of the AFC division they arent playing. In 2014 they with play the team of the same place in the standings as them in the AFC North and AFC south...one at home and one on the road.

[djp14150]

its a quirk in my book because in 15 years since the nfl adopted its current scheduling format they have made a single change to it and that was re-pairing the west coast teams to balance travel so you dont have to play in SF and SEA, or OAK and SD in the same year - that and i pointed out the change to the SYSTEM not the change to random games previously. Its literally the only deviation from the system since the league went to 32 teams, and by proxy the only example you would get. hence you pulled oakland and seattle.

 

the saints example you posted you have to go back to 1992 to break the pattern which is PRE league expansion and the current format.

 

the point of the whole system is that over time, its dumb luck if you play a good team any given year, home or away, etc.... minus the two games they assigned as a nudge towards parity to fill the gap between 14 preassigned simply by playing full divisions and 16 games played.

 

they started the current scheduling format in 2002...

 

In 2010 when they redid the cycle of opponents besides the Western teams they also shuffled the NFC South.

 

there is a six year cycle of who you play home and away in the placement games that balances out as 2 home and 2 away against each division.

 

an example of a cycle:

 

year 1 NORTH at West South

year 2 WEST North at South

year 3 SOUTH West at North

year 4 NORTH West at South

year 5 WEST at North South

year 6 SOUTH at West North

 

 

because they refomated the divisional pairings for 2010 was why Buffalo had a string of playing at Kansas City from 2008-2011 and they will now go for 3 years of hosting KC from 2012-2014.

[NoSaint]

 

 

they started the current scheduling format in 2002...

 

In 2010 when they redid the cycle of opponents besides the Western teams they also shuffled the NFC South.

 

there is a six year cycle of who you play home and away in the placement games that balances out as 2 home and 2 away against each division.

 

an example of a cycle:

 

year 1 NORTH at West South

year 2 WEST North at South

year 3 SOUTH West at North

year 4 NORTH West at South

year 5 WEST at North South

year 6 SOUTH at West North

 

 

because they refomated the divisional pairings for 2010 was why Buffalo had a string of playing at Kansas City from 2008-2011 and they will now go for 3 years of hosting KC from 2012-2014.

 

Yup - I just took stabs at the years off memory and didnt look any of it up. Thought it was late 90s and the about 5 years later they re-paired the travel stuff but was mistaken. Broad strokes, I think what I was telling him is essentially correct despite missing some specifics.

 

All around it strikes me as an odd spot for a poster to dig in their heels so deeply unless I'm totally missing something that he hasn't brought to the table. It's just a series of repeating patterns at different intervals.

[djp14150]

Yup - I just took stabs at the years off memory and didnt look any of it up. Thought it was late 90s and the about 5 years later they re-paired the travel stuff but was mistaken. Broad strokes, I think what I was telling him is essentially correct despite missing some specifics.

 

All around it strikes me as an odd spot for a poster to dig in their heels so deeply unless I'm totally missing something that he hasn't brought to the table. It's just a series of repeating patterns at different intervals.

 

a reason they shifted the matchups was because of the two times the you had the East teams play both West divisions in the same season and thus 2 of the teams had to do 4 trips(Seattle, Oakland, San Fran, San diego) to the west coast while the other teams only had to t2 (Arizona and Denver).

 

Teh year the AFC East played both West divisons in 2008....New England asked for and got back to back games on the west coast thus only needing to make 2 trips (thus staying the week in California) while the Jets didint say anything and got to do 4 separate trips.

 

Buffalo likely did the same thing where they asked to play San Fran and Arizona on back to back weeks last year.

[Just Jack]

Buffalo likely did the same thing where they asked to play San Fran and Arizona on back to back weeks last year.

 

Yes they did...

 

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/10/03/gailey-consulted-harbaugh-on-staying-out-west/

[RuntheDamnBall]

Home Away is not always rotated sir

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=23 Raiders H, H, A, A, H, H, H, H, H, A, A, H, H

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=20 Saints H, A, H, A, A, H, H, A, A

 

http://www.footballd...l?tm=4&opp=28 Seattle H, H, A, H, A, A, A, H, A, A, A, A,

 

 

http://www.footballd...tml?tm=4&opp=16

 

Kansas City H, A, A, A, A, H, A, A, A, A, H, H, H, A, H A, A

That's crazy how much they've ended up at Arrowhead. I'd noticed it before but hadn't realized it was that lopsided.

[djp14150]

That's crazy how much they've ended up at Arrowhead. I'd noticed it before but hadn't realized it was that lopsided.

 

this streak happened because of schedule patterns.

 

2008 at KC (divisional face off)

2009 at KC (EAst at west this year)

2010 at KC (east at West this year)

2011 at KC (divisional face off-changed the pairings from DEN-KC to SD-KC thus KC followed SD pattern)

2012 KC (West at East this year)

2013 KC (west at East this year)

2014 KC ( diviisonal face off-flip 2011 oppoenet locations)

2015 East at West

2016 East at West

2017 at KC (divisional face off flip of 2014)

2018-2025 ????? new set of pairings likely made and 8 year pattern of opponents

Edited October 24, 2013 by djp14150

[QB Bills]

 

 

 

I love this play! It was a Fake FB dive though. I really wish they did that with Fred and CJ in the backfield to get some space for CJ

No sir, it was a fake sneak. I remember it vividly.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=1933949&src=desktop