dayman Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 What are you all expecting, and hoping for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Not worth watching. I know who I'm voting for, and since I live in California, who I vote for doesn't matter. All you'll get from either guy is a bunch of pre-canned comments with a hope of landing some zinger that makes headlines, and even that is useless, as Lloyd Bentsen showed. It might be fun to take a drink every time Obama says "Let me be clear," but I'm saving myself for the Biden/Ryan debate so I can drink every time Biden says "...and I mean literally, not figuratively..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Huh....I thought the debate was over, everything that I read in the media today said the Obama won easily. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Huh....I thought the debate was over, everything that I read in the media today said the Obama won easily. According to a recent Washington Post poll, he's ahead by 11 in all swing states. Of course, that poll only included 18 people from all swing states, but still...it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Not worth watching. I know who I'm voting for, and since I live in California, who I vote for doesn't matter. All you'll get from either guy is a bunch of pre-canned comments with a hope of landing some zinger that makes headlines, and even that is useless, as Lloyd Bentsen showed. It might be fun to take a drink every time Obama says "Let me be clear," but I'm saving myself for the Biden/Ryan debate so I can drink every time Biden says "...and I mean literally, not figuratively..." Well...most of what you said is true. That said, for someone who spends time on PPP I would think it would be worth watching anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well...most of what you said is true. That said, for someone who spends time on PPP I would think it would be worth watching anyway. I spend time here because I'm at a desk all day and it passes time while I'm on conference calls, waiting for data to come in for proposals, etc. I used to spend most of my time at TBD, but it's so flooded with craziness that I find my Bills talk elsewhere, where I don't have to filter my way through people who think cutting Brian Moorman was the biggest mistake made in the past 10 years. There is nothing new I'll learn tonight, and short of finding out Mitt Romney raped the dog before putting him on the roof, we both know where I stand. So we're going out to a favorite restaurant with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well...most of what you said is true. That said, for someone who spends time on PPP I would think it would be worth watching anyway. I suppose that's true if your the sort of person who believes politics are more important than policy, and that electability is more important than leadership. Presidential "debates" aren't debates. They are a scripted pop culture quiz show where all the answers are carefully crafted sound bites and the winners are preordained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) I suppose that's true if your the sort of person who believes politics are more important than policy, and that electability is more important than leadership. Presidential "debates" aren't debates. They are a scripted pop culture quiz show where all the answers are carefully crafted sound bites and the winners are preordained. Blah blah. No **** the debates are pivot exercises and boilerplate stump repackaging. But they do provide some interesting responses regarding policy also. And in any event, if you are "the sort of person" who is interested in seeing a significant event in the Presidential race, you would be interested to watch tonight. In any event, I'm not here to defend the debates as some great thing. But tonight could be interesting. Edited October 3, 2012 by TheNewBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm just curious in seeing these two in the same room together. It's amazing how they spend millions of dollars attacking each other through their representatives but never actually exchange dialog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Yeah, it caused my normal 5 minute drive home to be 1/2 a !@#$ing hour..... Expecting..... hmmm.... - repeating the same BS posters of here on this board have discussed for years... - media rushing to give their expert analysis, which will turn out to be mostly bull **** garbage passed off as expertise - Fox News will declared Romney slam dunked it - MSNBC will call the election tonight for Obama Frankly, I find it less interesting than the conventions.... but whats sad, it MOST voters have not seen anything or know almost nothing about these two guys, their positions or policy proposals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm just curious in seeing these two in the same room together. It's amazing how they spend millions of dollars attacking each other through their representatives but never actually exchange dialog. I saw a story that said they've met personally 3 times...all briefly...as in a minute or two max. Handshake and how do you do and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I suppose that's true if your the sort of person who believes politics are more important than policy, and that electability is more important than leadership. Presidential "debates" aren't debates. They are a scripted pop culture quiz show where all the answers are carefully crafted sound bites and the winners are preordained. We rarely agree, but this is well summed up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I suppose that's true if your the sort of person who believes politics are more important than policy, and that electability is more important than leadership. Presidential "debates" aren't debates. They are a scripted pop culture quiz show where all the answers are carefully crafted sound bites and the winners are preordained. Maybe not pre-ordained...but not particularly relevant. Caught a great bit of stupidity on CNN the other night, where some yahoo was arguing that moderators, in this wikipedia day and age, should also act as fact-checkers during the debates, so when Romney contradicts himself in the debates they can call him out on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Maybe not pre-ordained...but not particularly relevant. Caught a great bit of stupidity on CNN the other night, where some yahoo was arguing that moderators, in this wikipedia day and age, should also act as fact-checkers during the debates, so when Romney contradicts himself in the debates they can call him out on it... It would be a good thing for that to happen for both candidates...thing is you would need a amazing moderator respected by all who is smart etc....so it's not possible. Edited October 4, 2012 by TheNewBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 What are you all expecting, and hoping for? It's going to start with Romney crushing oranges between his biceps and end with Obama walking across a pool of water and healing the sick in the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 what do I expect?? Well, to hear these terms at least once... The rich can afford to pay more Everyone needs to pay their fair share The more fortunate..... go back to Clinton tax rates Warren Buffet and his secretary....again... I inherited.... Millionaires Billionaires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 It would be a good thing for that to happen for both candidates...thing is you would need a amazing moderator respected by all who is smart etc....so it's not possible. Not since Tim Graham died. And arguably, that's the role of the debaters themselves. But the funny thing was that the idiot on CNN was very specific about how it should be applied only to Romney. It was Monday, after MNF (I was flipping channels and caught it), so only maybe eight people were watching...which I'm sure is why they had this guy slotted then. Still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 what do I expect?? Well, to hear these terms at least once... The rich can afford to pay more Everyone needs to pay their fair share The more fortunate..... go back to Clinton tax rates Warren Buffet and his secretary....again... I inherited.... Millionaires Billionaires You forgot that the tax policy centers take on Mitts stated policy. That will probably come up 3 times OMG did you see that handshake! Debate over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 already Lehrer using "trickle down" as if Romney said that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Energy Indepedence was mentioned, I am good..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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