Buffan00 Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Seriously, alot of people here dont like Lindell, BUT he has NOT had that bad of a year. And if you look at the big picture, it is not our weakness!! OL, DL, CB and maybe TE should go WAY before a PK. Especially since we have only 1 good pick this year. And if TD sticks to his word on "best available player" regardless of need, then it definently wont be Nugent or any other PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 I promise you that when the Bills win the Super Bowl, it won't be with Lindell as kicker. I have no qualms with drafting a great kicker in the second round, but I don't think TD places that much of an emphasis on that position, which is the reason why we have Lindell in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 We punt from their 35.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 We punt from their 35.......... 184768[/snapback] Fo shizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell has been very good at close range but he is questionable on longer field goals and his kickoffs are weak. I think that Mike Nugent of Ohio state could help the special teams be even more dominant. I would not be disappointed if the Bills took Mike Nugent in the 3rd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell has been very good at close range but he is questionable on longer field goals and his kickoffs are weak.I think that Mike Nugent of Ohio state could help the special teams be even more dominant. I would not be disappointed if the Bills took Mike Nugent in the 3rd round 184906[/snapback] It's a no brainer. Take him and our over 40 yds achilles heel will be healed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Seriously, alot of people here dont like Lindell, BUT he has NOT had that bad of a year. And if you look at the big picture, it is not our weakness!! OL, DL, CB and maybe TE should go WAY before a PK. Especially since we have only 1 good pick this year. And if TD sticks to his word on "best available player" regardless of need, then it definently wont be Nugent or any other PK. 184761[/snapback] No need, Mike Nugent should be available in the 3rd round according to most draft pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell has been very good at close range but he is questionable on longer field goals and his kickoffs are weak.I think that Mike Nugent of Ohio state could help the special teams be even more dominant. I would not be disappointed if the Bills took Mike Nugent in the 3rd round 184906[/snapback] NUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. If we get him, they've got to play "Stranglehold" every time he comes onfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell is a huge problem to this team. Yeah his stats are okay, but thats only because Mularkey uses him consistently when its inside the 30! Take Nuge in the 2nd or 3rd round and we'll have a weapon instead of a limitation at kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell is a huge problem to this team. Yeah his stats are okay, but thats only because Mularkey uses him consistently when its inside the 30! Take Nuge in the 2nd or 3rd round and we'll have a weapon instead of a limitation at kicker. 184948[/snapback] I'm starting to agree. Someone else started a thread a couple months back about Nugent being our 2nd round pick. I stated then that I thought the Bills wouldn't consider it. They probably still wouldn't... but it might not be a bad idea. Nugent isn't just another good Kicker. He looks like he could be a top 5 Kicker in his rookie year. As a Buckeye fan, I've seen him make many 50 yard + FG's with amazing consistency. Most of his kickoffs are never returned. The Bills are a team that stresses field position and will take the 3 points, when given the opportunity. Lindell is very shaky beyond 35 yards, let alone 40. That's eventually going to cost you a game or two. I'm sure a lot depends on how the Bills lineup looks after making some moves in March free agency. If they see the starting lineup no longer has any gaping holes and the draft is a depth only exercise, then Nugent may be considered as the final missing piece. I wouldn't be surprised if someone grabbed him in round 2. Round 3 would be a steal. He's a rare talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubhockey Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Bottomline, if Nugent played in the NFL two years ago when he was a Soph in college, he would have been in the top five kickers in the league. Next season, he will be the #1 kicker. The guy is as close to automatic as they come ... and from all distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Anyone know what Lindell's cost to the team would be for cutting him / what his contract is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 The Bills are desperate for a long range accurate kicker. If there is a player who has the potential I would pull the trigger at the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 When you have McGahee and Evans, who needs a field goal kicker. But seriously, good playoff teams have a clutch kicker. We don't have one... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell is as good of a kicker as Baby Joe Mesi is a Boxer. Both have very good percentages, because the people controlling when they will work (Coach Mularky, and whoever Mesi manager is) won't let them go up against a big challenge. Lindell's percentage is good because anything over 45 is either a punt, fake punt, or 4th and go for it. Mesi never lost because he never fought anyone worth fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell is as good of a kicker as Baby Joe Mesi is a Boxer. Both have very good percentages, because the people controlling when they will work (Coach Mularky, and whoever Mesi manager is) won't let them go up against a big challenge. Lindell's percentage is good because anything over 45 is either a punt, fake punt, or 4th and go for it. Mesi never lost because he never fought anyone worth fighting. 185037[/snapback] I'm an analogy guy and this is as close to perfect as you can get. To take it a step further over 40 yards is a legitimate heavyweight! I hope this guy doesn't cost us in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Is Mike related to Ted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 I hope this guy doesn't cost us in the playoffs. 185055[/snapback] I hope he has an opportunity in the playoffs - because that means we got in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Lindell has NOT been a money kicker, this year or ever. Fortunately, the Bills have yet to be in a position where we need a 45-yarder to win a game. Look at what Vinitieri has done for the Pats. Remember what is like when we had Steve Christie? There's no question Lindell has the leg, but hallf the job is mental. I would definitely consider a high pick for a kicker like a Nugent from Ohio State, if we was going to be a money player. The price is steep, but a good kicker can win you 2-3 games a year...sometimes even a Super Bowl. Face it...the Bills kicking game is suspect. We're just lucky it hasn't cost us a game in this playoff run. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Nugent would be worth a second round kick if his big college leg translates. The field position angle alone is worth almost 10 yards on average. That says nothing of possible points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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