Best 5TH round draft ever

[BillsGuyInMalta]

With regard to the title of this thread, I have been saying that this draft had the best fourth and fifth rounds I can remember. They really brought the whole thing together.

I mean this with the utmost respect to Aaron Williams who did show flashes of talent last year, but I truly believe Ron Brooks and Stephon Gilmore will be our starting CBs for years to come. There is something about Brooks...his speed, his tenacity, his fire, his humility...that just screams to me "starting caliber NFL CB". He reminds me very much of Terrence McGee in his (uninjured) prime.

 

Not knocking on Williams again, heck I hope he steps up and we have the enviable problem of three starting CBs on this squad.

Edited April 30, 2012 by BillsGuyBackInMalta

[1B4IDie]

I mean this with the utmost respect to Aaron Williams who did show flashes of talent last year, but I truly believe Ron Brooks and Stephon Gilmore will be our starting CBs for years to come. There is something about Brooks...his speed, his tenacity, his fire, his humility...that just screams to me "starting caliber NFL CB". He reminds me very much of Terrence McGee in his (uninjured) prime.

 

Not knocking on Williams again, heck I hope he steps up and we have the enviable problem of three starting CBs on this squad.

 

I hope you're on to something.

 

The Great news, is the Bills had 3 CBs on the field for a significant percentage of defensive plays last year, and will likely in the future.

[bbb]

I mean this with the utmost respect to Aaron Williams who did show flashes of talent last year, but I truly believe Ron Brooks and Stephon Gilmore will be our starting CBs for years to come. There is something about Brooks...his speed, his tenacity, his fire, his humility...that just screams to me "starting caliber NFL CB". He reminds me very much of Terrence McGee in his (uninjured) prime.

 

Not knocking on Williams again, heck I hope he steps up and we have the enviable problem of three starting CBs on this squad.

 

I just found out yesterday that Claiburne is NOT Honey Badger, I think..........So, those are two separate guys, plus Peterson was there last year??......No wonder Brooks wasn't starting!

[Mr. WEO]

Buddy's first real draft was last year when he didn't have to rely on Modrak and our old scouts...

 

 

Buddy, like Polian and Butler is a scout through and through. I love what Buddy is doing with Whaley and making him go scout players. TD was never a scout and relied on people like Modrak & Guy. The way to be a great GM is to be able to scout players yourself.

 

 

So in Buddy's first draft, depite being a "scout through and through", he relied on Modrak? And then you go on to rip TD for....relying on Modrak?

 

The 2010 draft was all Buddy/Chan, through and through. Why pretend it wansn't?

Edited April 30, 2012 by Mr. WEO

[1B4IDie]

So in Buddy's first draft, depite being a "scout through and through", he relied on Modrak? And then you go on to rip TD for....relying on Modrak?

 

The 2010 draft was all Buddy/Chan, through and through. Why pretend it wansn't?

I personally don't give Nix a pass for 2010.

 

I think the point that was trying to be made is the actually scounting staff changed from 2010. So the source material for making decisions in 2011 and 2012 is from Buddy's guys.

 

Where the source material for making decisions in 2010 was going back to TD.

 

Those are facts.

 

You can argue Buddy may have taken too long to fix it but there appears to be a difference in draft quality from 2010 to 2011 and 2012.

 

Still early but there appears to be a difference.

[todzilla]

I mean this with the utmost respect to Aaron Williams who did show flashes of talent last year, but I truly believe Ron Brooks and Stephon Gilmore will be our starting CBs for years to come. There is something about Brooks...his speed, his tenacity, his fire, his humility...that just screams to me "starting caliber NFL CB". He reminds me very much of Terrence McGee in his (uninjured) prime.

 

Not knocking on Williams again, heck I hope he steps up and we have the enviable problem of three starting CBs on this squad.

 

Thats really interesting that you say that Malta...I had a very similar, there's something about him, feeling about Brooks. I hope, Williams, Brooks and Gilmore turn into one of the best CB groups in the league to go along with the awesome front 4 they've put together.

[Reed83HOF]

I personally don't give Nix a pass for 2010.

 

I think the point that was trying to be made is the actually scounting staff changed from 2010. So the source material for making decisions in 2011 and 2012 is from Buddy's guys.

 

Where the source material for making decisions in 2010 was going back to TD.

 

Those are facts.

 

You can argue Buddy may have taken too long to fix it but there appears to be a difference in draft quality from 2010 to 2011 and 2012.

 

Still early but there appears to be a difference.

 

That is what I was going for WSS...

 

In 2010 Buddy gets a bit of a pass, they still didn't know where they were going as a team, who should stay who should go. The were going to a 34 and attempted to pick those types of players. (I have no idea why they brought him back this past season). Buddy couldn't scout every last player we picked, but he Spiller liked our not was BPA. Troupe filled a need as a DT, there were lots of concerns about Cody and history shows we pass on everyone with character/workout/conditioning concerns.

[3rdand12]

Thats really interesting that you say that Malta...I had a very similar, there's something about him, feeling about Brooks. I hope, Williams, Brooks and Gilmore turn into one of the best CB groups in the league to go along with the awesome front 4 they've put together.

Regardless of who list as the starting 2 corner, we are going to have the ability to match up with each teams strengths on there respective receiving corp. And actually running game too i bet. We have guys that can hit and guys that can run. And enough that can do both now.

I must say i am giddy about our potential over the next two years with these 3 CBs plus our Veterans teaching during the transition. And now Linebackers too.

Looks at the outset we are building a Team as compared to a bunch of good players. Hopefully our coaches get them in a position to make the plays.

[jjmac]

Wow!

 

The Bills certaintly caught some major talent falling through the draft.

 

I liked Zebrie as 3rd rounder.

 

And look you get Tank the Tank in the 5th sure to be a fan favorite.

 

If I just switch TJ Whatshisname with Sanders, this is looking like an A draft.

 

Pretty happy now.

 

 

With regard to the thread title, I would remind you that the Steelers drafted Mike Webster in the 5th round (1974). Until one or both of our guys gets 4 Super Bowl rings and ends up in the Hall of Fame, it is far from the best 5th round ever.

[1B4IDie]

With regard to the thread title, I would remind you that the Steelers drafted Mike Webster in the 5th round (1974). Until one or both of our guys gets 4 Super Bowl rings and ends up in the Hall of Fame, it is far from the best 5th round ever.

Yeah but you had to do some research on that.

 

How about Bills 5th rounders?

 

How about 5th

[billsfan89]

I really like the depth that the later rounds provide this team (Rounds 4-7). I don't think that any of those guys will be starters from day 1 or anything like that. But I do think that we got a lot of guys who can play some spot duty and come in for a couple of games and play decently. I thought a big weakness going into last season was depth. I think with our new defensive scheme, offseason re-signings/signings, and a solid draft class I think the team has better depth going into this season.

[jjmac]

Yeah but you had to do some research on that.

 

How about Bills 5th rounders?

 

How about 5th

 

Not that much research....I am 45, after all.

 

Best 5th Bills fifth round? John Kidd?

[Jeffery Lester]

So can we FINALLY call McKelvin a bust and move onward?

I agree that Leodis is not up to par as a CB. But Leodis could go the probowl as a special team player this year. I would not quite get rid of him yet.

 

2012 Buffalo CB

1. Drayton

2. Williams

3. Gilmore

4. Brooks

5. Rogers

6. Leodis

Edited May 1, 2012 by Jeffery Lester

[Jeffery Lester]

With regard to the thread title, I would remind you that the Steelers drafted Mike Webster in the 5th round (1974). Until one or both of our guys gets 4 Super Bowl rings and ends up in the Hall of Fame, it is far from the best 5th round ever.

Who gives a flying !@#$ about Mike Webster and the 1974 draft. Quit being a stuck up little know it all. Just pull your steelers hoodie up tight and go get a Primanti brothers sandwich. Let the man be happy about the 5th round this year. As you go oogle your Mike Webster poster and clean up the mess with your terrible towel.

[billsburgh]

Not that much research....I am 45, after all.

 

Best 5th Bills fifth round? John Kidd?

Kyle Williams was also a 5th round pick back in 2006.

[bigc14120]

So can we FINALLY call McKelvin a bust and move onward?

NOT SO FAST!!!

 

I agree that Leodis is not up to par as a CB. But Leodis could go the probowl as a special team player this year. I would not quite get rid of him yet.

 

2012 Buffalo CB

1. Drayton

2. Williams

3. Gilmore

4. Brooks

5. Rogers

6. Leodis

I agree Leodis needs to up his CB game, but that may yet happen. I think however, that this listing is overly optimistic by quite a lot. First of all, Florence legs are really old, and he was beaten by speed many times last year. We would be better off if he didn't make the team, although I love his heart and his willlingness to do whatever to win. And William and Rogers haven't proved anything to me yet...both appear to be a step slower than the speed burners we have (Gilmore, Brooks, McKelvin) The positive spin these two have reminds me of the Ko Simpson buzz of a few years back...Ko was a player, but slow and eventually gone. Its all about speed and making plays. McKelvin has speed, has not made plays, Williams and Rogers make some plays, but are slower and beatable by the likes of that guy Hill the Jets drafted.

[jjmac]

Who gives a flying !@#$ about Mike Webster and the 1974 draft. Quit being a stuck up little know it all. Just pull your steelers hoodie up tight and go get a Primanti brothers sandwich. Let the man be happy about the 5th round this year. As you go oogle your Mike Webster poster and clean up the mess with your terrible towel.

 

 

You need to chill. If you would care to look at the title of the thread, it says "Best 5TH round draft ever." That does not imply any limitation to the Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers,or any other team for that matter. All I did was express my opinion, which, as long as I do not violate the TOS, I am allowed to do on this board. If you do not agree with my opinion, that is your prerogative, and you may express that too. However, I will also tell you that I am full of all kinds of veteran attitude, and how I treat you depends on how you treat me. Since you opted to blow up like a teenage girl whose mother just denied her request to use makeup, I will kindly invite you to embark on a unidirectional voyage to the infernal regions, or, if you prefer, place your lips upon my derriere and perform the act of osculation.

 

Kyle Williams was also a 5th round pick back in 2006.

 

 

Good point. I stand corrected.

[Jeffery Lester]

You need to chill. If you would care to look at the title of the thread, it says "Best 5TH round draft ever." That does not imply any limitation to the Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers,or any other team for that matter. All I did was express my opinion, which, as long as I do not violate the TOS, I am allowed to do on this board. If you do not agree with my opinion, that is your prerogative, and you may express that too. However, I will also tell you that I am full of all kinds of veteran attitude, and how I treat you depends on how you treat me. Since you opted to blow up like a teenage girl whose mother just denied her request to use makeup, I will kindly invite you to embark on a unidirectional voyage to the infernal regions, or, if you prefer, place your lips upon my derriere and perform the act of osculation.

 

First off I do not need to chill. You need to be realistic and be able to put a statement in the proper context . A Bills fan was very excited about the recent draft. As a lot of us are. He expressed his enthusiasm, with a generalized statement. Which you took at a literal word and face value. And brought up Mike Webster from the 1974 draft to prove your point. How ridiculous is that. Are you one of those type of people who everytime someone says something you have to prove them wrong. Or just the type who likes to have big burly men place there lips on your derriere and perform the act of oscultation. My guess is probably both

 

 

Good point. I stand corrected.

[KD in CA]

Yeah but you had to do some research on that.

 

How about Bills 5th rounders?

 

How about 5th

 

 

Bills drafted Kyle Williams and Brad Butler in the 5th round in 2006.

[jjmac]

I am not trying to prove the man wrong. All I did was express my opinion, which is what this board is about. I do not and will not apologize for my approach. You have the right to express your opinion in any manner you choose, just as I do in any manner I choose. If you do not agree with what I say, fine. However, I will say it again: I do things my way, and I am not about to change for you.