mountainwampus Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Since Kelsay has been a Bill longer than anyone and just had a huge contract extention last year, he MUST be considered one of the "elite" OLBs in the NFL, right? They say he has a "high motor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Definitely. Top 5 OLB in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Is Chris Kelsay an elite OLB? Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Definitely. Top 5 OLB in the game. I assume you are being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm happy that thus far I stand with the 75% of respondents who answered the absurdity of this poll in kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Since Kelsay has been a Bill longer than anyone and just had a huge contract extention last year, he MUST be considered one of the "elite" OLBs in the NFL, right? They say he has a "high motor." Thank you. Finally, someone breaks the silence on Kelsay. The man gets no scrutiny despite being one of the longest tenured players on this team, and a supposed leader on the defensive unit which has been one of the worst in the league for the last 2 years. Its like everyone here at TBD is afraid to talk about it. You can say whatever you want about Mother Theresa, Jesus, the pope, Tim Tebow, but dare criticize Kelsay and everyone goes silent. When you sign a monster deal like Kelsay did, I think its fair to question whether or not he is indeed a hall of fame linebacker as his astronomical paycheck would suggest. Thank you Mountainwampus for starting the conversation. It needed to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Since Kelsay has been a Bill longer than anyone and just had a huge contract extention last year, he MUST be considered one of the "elite" OLBs in the NFL, right? They say he has a "high motor." Is this an elite thread? Thank you. Finally, someone breaks the silence on Kelsay. The man gets no scrutiny despite being one of the longest tenured players on this team, and a supposed leader on the defensive unit which has been one of the worst in the league for the last 2 years. Its like everyone here at TBD is afraid to talk about it. You can say whatever you want about Mother Theresa, Jesus, the pope, Tim Tebow, but dare criticize Kelsay and everyone goes silent. When you sign a monster deal like Kelsay did, I think its fair to question whether or not he is indeed a hall of fame linebacker as his astronomical paycheck would suggest. Thank you Mountainwampus for starting the conversation. It needed to be said. Funny, I seem to recall quite the mountain of Kelsay-bashing around here, particularly last year. As I recall speculation was rife that he must have the drop on someone in the Bills organization to get the extension he got. I also recall many the comments this year that he's playing solidly, but he is NOT an OLB and we badly need OLBs. I do hope we're not going to be subjected to the tedium of thread after thread of inane "is such-and-such player an elite this-or-that? now Edited December 9, 2011 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 My personal list? 1) DeMarcus Ware 2 Chris Kelsay 3) James Harrison 4) Arthur Moats 5) Robert Eddins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Is this an elite thread? Funny, I seem to recall quite the mountain of Kelsay-bashing around here, particularly last year. As I recall speculation was rife that he must have the drop on someone in the Bills organization to get the extension he got. I also recall many the comments this year that he's playing solidly, but he is NOT an OLB and we badly need OLBs. I do hope we're not going to be subjected to the tedium of thread after thread of inane "is such-and-such player an elite this-or-that? now Half the people on here hate him (myself included), but the other half think he's awesome or at least adequate. Someone even compared him to BRUCE SMITH after he hit Dalton on the "tuck rule" play. I thought a poll might clear things up, but apparently, nobody is taking this seriously. BTW, I think it's fair to ask if a player is elite if he's given a big contract extension. We could also start one for Kyle Williams, but he actually is considered one of the elite, so why bother. Edited December 9, 2011 by mountainwampus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Half the people on here hate him (myself included), but the other half think he's awesome or at least adequate. Someone even compared him to BRUCE SMITH after he hit Dalton on the "tuck rule" play. I thought a poll might clear things up, but apparently, nobody is taking this seriously. If there is a poster who believes Kelsay is "awesome", please chime in. Probably no Bills fan considers him awesome. And your suggestion that criticizing Kelsay is taboo, well, it is just nonsense. That Kelsay more or less sucks as an OLB - it's just old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 My personal list? 1) DeMarcus Ware 2 Chris Kelsay 3) James Harrison 4) Arthur Moats 5) Robert Eddins You forgot Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thank you. Finally, someone breaks the silence on Kelsay. The man gets no scrutiny despite being one of the longest tenured players on this team, and a supposed leader on the defensive unit which has been one of the worst in the league for the last 2 years. Its like everyone here at TBD is afraid to talk about it. You can say whatever you want about Mother Theresa, Jesus, the pope, Tim Tebow, but dare criticize Kelsay and everyone goes silent. When you sign a monster deal like Kelsay did, I think its fair to question whether or not he is indeed a hall of fame linebacker as his astronomical paycheck would suggest. Thank you Mountainwampus for starting the conversation. It needed to be said. Agreed, everyone here was fully on board with the Kelsey extension and his play is never criticized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) BTW, I think it's fair to ask if a player is elite if he's given a big contract extension. We could also start one for Kyle Williams, but he actually is considered one of the elite, so why bother. It's tough to tell if you're still tounge in cheek on this, but what do you consider a "big contract extension?" Kelsay's 5 year $28M contract, that he likely will never see the end of, pales in comparison to actual elite players such as Demarcus Ware (7 years $79M) or James Harrison (6 yrs $52M). So no, Kelsay is not elite (despite my vote to the contrary), nor is he being paid like an elite player (only $2M this season). http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2278/player?r=1 Edited December 9, 2011 by Carey Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Is this an elite thread? Funny, I seem to recall quite the mountain of Kelsay-bashing around here, particularly last year. As I recall speculation was rife that he must have the drop on someone in the Bills organization to get the extension he got. I also recall many the comments this year that he's playing solidly, but he is NOT an OLB and we badly need OLBs. I do hope we're not going to be subjected to the tedium of thread after thread of inane "is such-and-such player an elite this-or-that? now My personal list? 1) DeMarcus Ware 2 Chris Kelsay 3) James Harrison 4) Arthur Moats 5) Robert Eddins You forgot Merriman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 It's tough to tell if you're still tounge in cheek on this, I really don't even know anymore, but thanks for your vote!! Perhaps a better question would be: Is Kelsay worth $28 Mil over 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You forgot Maybin. Maybin is definitely a top 6-7 OLB in the NFL but I think his play is more a function of Rex Ryan's elaborate schemes. You forgot Merriman. Nope. Didn't forget him either. Merriman is on the cusp of greatness and deserves strong consideration for Comeback Player of the Decade… but he's missed too much time over the last several seasons to be in the top 5. I have Maybin and Merriman tied with Danny Batten, LaMarr Woodley, and Clay Matthews in spots 6-10. They're all elite and it's too close to call, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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