Marshmallow Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Didn't Marino get a 16 and McNabb a 14? They had decent careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 Yeah, Patrick Peterson has no red flags at all. So what if he isn't classroom smart. His classroom was in the athletic department, and he is a high character, top caliber CB prospect. I'd be much more worried about what he looks like in cold weather, since I don't know if he's ever played in cold weather... But for bashing LSU for having dumb players, it is FODDER and FUN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) You have 12 minutes to do 50 questions. Someone could easily only complete 15-20 questions in that time. So is 9/18 really that bad, simply because they report it as 9/50? Quite frankly the only excuse for that is if his agent didn't tell him "hey- with a minute left if you have 35 blank your better off bubbling in randoms then you are trying to read question 15." and yes, 9 out of 18 on this test even without guesses is a warning flag. There are a lot of beyond easy questions on it. Doesn't mean he's dumb but something is wrong and as a GM it's now your job to figure out what, and if it's either correctable or will effect play. Also, the issue with testing follows Peterson back to his highschool days and becoming eligible. This isn't a one time- "oh maybe he didn't understand the test" problem. as I have been saying (and you've seen it mentioned in some scouting reports both indirectly early and directly lately) he doesn't play particularly smart, he plays like a kid who is just faster than everyone else, not a kid that understands the intricacies of the game particularly well. I think he gets the big picture stuff but still for all those saying no knocks or question marks... The evidence continues to build on the space between his ears being questionable. As for the interviews- he does speak pretty well for a college kid. I will definitely give him that. It's possible he is smart but has a literacy issue/basic learning disorder that makes processing a written test tough for him but doesn't effect him verbally or football-wise. I've never heard him say anything profoundly insightful, but that doesn't mean he has no insight. I can't recall any big head scratchers. I also would express in these interviews that charisma and intelligence aren't the same thing. Both great assets, but not the same thing. Last up - his favorite team is the cowboys. I don't know about you guys, but I can't remember a smart cowboy fan. That's only anecdotal but still Edited March 19, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Is he? Maybe he just doesn't take tests well. Maybe the test isn't a true indicator of intelligence. He doesn't seem to have any problems being understood. This is just one interview. There are many more. youtube.com/watch?v=FSCkXnqyViw&feature=related Be careful assuming anything about anyone's intelligence based off a test. Just because one gets a good score on a test doesn't necessarily make them intelligent. Change the subject of the test, change other dynamics of the test maybe they will do better or not as well. Maybe he blew off the test. Who knows. Getting a 40 or higher on that test is probably a sign of some higher intelligence. If he "blew off" a test that may have some impact as to where he is drafted and therefore how much money he makes, then he is truly dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 How does this parrot's 40 time compare to Peterson's? parrot wins again.....Peterson runs just over 23 mph...parrot goes 30-40 mph......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Some quotes on him -- "Peterson plays like a low-test guy," one NFL decision maker told PFW on the condition he remain anonymous, "but (if) he's in 'cat' (man-to-man) coverage in the NFL, it's not as big of an issue as it will be for offensive guys." "He's a press corner," another longtime evaluator said. "His strong suit is that he can run and press. He won't play for the Patriots, where he's disguising coverage after coverage, but I still think he can be a No. 1 shutdown corner." A scout with deep knowledge of the kid said, "The more I'm around him, the more I love him even more. I love the kid, and I love the talent. But I don't like the way he plays with his back to the ball. He has an instinct issue, and I think it's tied to his mental (ability). He can only handle so much. He's not a quick processor. It's a scary year to be drafting in the top 10 because they all have some issue." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Some quotes on him -- "Peterson plays like a low-test guy," one NFL decision maker told PFW on the condition he remain anonymous, "but (if) he's in 'cat' (man-to-man) coverage in the NFL, it's not as big of an issue as it will be for offensive guys." "He's a press corner," another longtime evaluator said. "His strong suit is that he can run and press. He won't play for the Patriots, where he's disguising coverage after coverage, but I still think he can be a No. 1 shutdown corner." A scout with deep knowledge of the kid said, "The more I'm around him, the more I love him even more. I love the kid, and I love the talent. But I don't like the way he plays with his back to the ball. He has an instinct issue, and I think it's tied to his mental (ability). He can only handle so much. He's not a quick processor. It's a scary year to be drafting in the top 10 because they all have some issue." Bills will draft him and try to turn him into a safety , would that be special as we try and oiutsmart everyone again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmeSP Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Didn't Marino get a 16 and McNabb a 14? They had decent careers. McNabb i'm not sure about, but both Marino and our own Jim Kelly got 15's. take it for what it's worth, i personally don't put too much stock in the wonderlic, the number of great players with relatively low scores just doesn't support it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Dexter, what makes you think the Wonderlic is multiple choice? ...because that's what it is in Madden? The condensed (15 minute WPT) version I took had a few multiple choice questions (e.g. which shape comes next in the series?) but most were not. I suspect many of the very low scores, especially by players who do much better on later attempts, just reflect the player doesn't care about the test, not necessarily that they are profoundly dim (though I'm sure some are). It's not multiple choice. Similar to other standardized tests, the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test presents its questions in an open response format with increasing difficulty. For example, a simple question may ask a participant to observe a set of words, and select one that is irrelevant to the others. In addition, the test may require one to solve a word problem by utilizing various algebraic and geometric techniques.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test Edited March 21, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 McNabb i'm not sure about, but both Marino and our own Jim Kelly got 15's. take it for what it's worth, i personally don't put too much stock in the wonderlic, the number of great players with relatively low scores just doesn't support it What it supports is an INVERSE CORRELATION between FOOTBALL and INTELLIGENCE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 What it supports is an INVERSE CORRELATION between FOOTBALL and INTELLIGENCE... Eric King and Justin Geisinger still suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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