AllDayADay Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When you look at the Bills defense, I think this season has proven that one position in particular is in desperate need of help, Linebackers. I think it pretty amazing that we look "ok" some of the time. Think about the Bills LBs compared to any other team and who would start on another team. I would say Poz and Moats, and maybe Coleman and Maybin would be the only ones to make another good defensive team's roster. Its a desperate need for this team and I know Buddy Nix thinks the same. We better hope the LB draft class is a good one and some good FA are out there. Torbor, Ayodele, Ellson are not going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Nice one I'm sure you will get a million responses. Maybin is better than Torbor. Haha. Good one. Way to hide the nature of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Keep poz, moats, coleman, davis, Kelsay, and batten. Draft LB heavily and add a free agent or two. Bye bye Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradDobler Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Maybe someone can help? I'd like to imbed the old, silent black and white movie clip of the defenders of a castle pouring cauldrons of hot lead onto the teeming crowds below. It may have been "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" before Charles Laughton from 1939 but I can't find the video possibly Lon Chaney Sr? It just seems to fit in this thread for humor, with no disrespect intended to any poster. Edited December 8, 2010 by ConradDobler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When you look at the Bills defense, I think this season has proven that one position in particular is in desperate need of help, Linebackers. I think it pretty amazing that we look "ok" some of the time. Think about the Bills LBs compared to any other team and who would start on another team. I would say Poz and Moats, and maybe Coleman and Maybin would be the only ones to make another good defensive team's roster. Its a desperate need for this team and I know Buddy Nix thinks the same. We better hope the LB draft class is a good one and some good FA are out there. Torbor, Ayodele, Ellson are not going to cut it. Maybin?! are you nuts?! He can barely get on the get on the field with the worst linebackers in the League. Moats has potential and poz would be a backup on most teams. I have been hoping that poz will be elite but he is way too inconsistant, doesn't hit hard and makes his tackles way down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When you look at the Bills defense, I think this season has proven that one position in particular is in desperate need of help, Linebackers. I think it pretty amazing that we look "ok" some of the time. Think about the Bills LBs compared to any other team and who would start on another team. I would say Poz and Moats, and maybe Coleman and Maybin would be the only ones to make another good defensive team's roster. Its a desperate need for this team and I know Buddy Nix thinks the same. We better hope the LB draft class is a good one and some good FA are out there. Torbor, Ayodele, Ellson are not going to cut it. Batten and Davis going down did not help. Agreed that Ellison is not a 3 - 4 backer. Moats looks like a player. If Batten had gotten on the field, he would have been good too. Andra Davis is a stud, on the wrong side of his career, but a stud. LB is not a good position to have a lot of injuries if you run a 3 - 4 . OLB will be addressed in the draft I am sure. Doesn't really matter, as there probably won't be a season next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Ayodele got knocked on his can like a girl by Peterson on the goal line. A real linebacker would have at least stood him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills99999 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Maybin?! are you nuts?! He can barely get on the get on the field with the worst linebackers in the League. Moats has potential and poz would be a backup on most teams. I have been hoping that poz will be elite but he is way too inconsistant, doesn't hit hard and makes his tackles way down the field. Why does everybody keep crapping on Maybin? Just because we wasted a first pick on him, he makes too much money and he does not belong in the NFL does not mean his mother does not love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Why does everybody keep crapping on Maybin? Just because we wasted a first pick on him, he makes too much money and he does not belong in the NFL does not mean his mother does not love him I have to admit I enjoyed this post. Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills99999 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I have to admit I enjoyed this post. Good one! That does not make up for the fact I cried myself to sleep the other night when you called me a "moron" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When you look at the Bills defense, I think this season has proven that one position in particular is in desperate need of help, Linebackers. I think it pretty amazing that we look "ok" some of the time. Think about the Bills LBs compared to any other team and who would start on another team. I would say Poz and Moats, and maybe Coleman and Maybin would be the only ones to make another good defensive team's roster. Its a desperate need for this team and I know Buddy Nix thinks the same. We better hope the LB draft class is a good one and some good FA are out there. Torbor, Ayodele, Ellson are not going to cut it. Moats would start on another team? Which one? At best he is ST and back up. He shows some potential though. Poz is legit. Davis can pay the run. Torbor is a good backup. Coleman is a ST/ backup like Moats. Maybin will be lucky to even make the Bills next season. Ellison, Ayodele and Kelsey need to all go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That does not make up for the fact I cried myself to sleep the other night when you called me a "moron" Now. Now. Now. I didn't call you a moron. I asked you if you WERE a moron. Big difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 OK... Linebackers are a glaring weakness. However, they are not the biggest single need on defense. If you are running a 3-4 and want one that can't be moved on easily, you MUST have a big fat nasty NT. The Bills don't have one. It's not a knock on Kyle williams... OK he's nasty, but at NT 1 out of three is bad (not big & fat enough). Get a big fat nasty NT and slide Williams over to DE... then he'll be be big and nasty... and you don't want the fat at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 OK... Linebackers are a glaring weakness. However, they are not the biggest single need on defense. If you are running a 3-4 and want one that can't be moved on easily, you MUST have a big fat nasty NT. The Bills don't have one. It's not a knock on Kyle williams... OK he's nasty, but at NT 1 out of three is bad (not big & fat enough). Get a big fat nasty NT and slide Williams over to DE... then he'll be be big and nasty... and you don't want the fat at DE. Isn't that what Troup was drafted for? Maybe next year he will grow into the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Draft stud passrushing DE (Bowers,Quinn)and MLB, start Troup, switch to 4-3 problem solved. 3-4 is over rated as players make the difference not schemes and this team is more suited for 4-3. Our best defensive player is better suited as an under DT. Troup could be the space eater in a 4-3 with Stroud and Edwards spelling them. Starting lineup DL: Bowers or Quinn, Williams, Troup,(Kelsay/Carrington/Johnson) LB: Poz/MLB/Torbor or FA upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I think Merriman's our best LB. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I think Merriman's our best LB. Oh wait. Merriman was brought in to lock down the IR LB position after Kawika was dumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When you look at the Bills defense, I think this season has proven that one position in particular is in desperate need of help, Linebackers. I think it pretty amazing that we look "ok" some of the time. Think about the Bills LBs compared to any other team and who would start on another team. I would say Poz and Moats, and maybe Coleman and Maybin would be the only ones to make another good defensive team's roster. Its a desperate need for this team and I know Buddy Nix thinks the same. We better hope the LB draft class is a good one and some good FA are out there. Torbor, Ayodele, Ellson are not going to cut it. I think the most over-looked LB need on this team is ILB. I like Poz, but they need another player to put next to him on the inside. Basically Andre Davis' replacement. I do think they need a player at OLB who can play the run and rush the passer - a blue chip player - but I think after getting one of those, we'd be OK. Moats looks like he's worthy of more playing time. Battan looked good before he got hurt and is very athletic. Kelsey is Kelsey. Maybin deserves another offseason and training camp at least. Coleman has potential and should get another offseason. On the inside however, we have Poz and Davis. We could use 2 or 3 new players at ILB depending on Davis' availability for next year. At the very least, if Davis goes down again next year, there should be a player who can actually fill his role come in for him instead of another Keith Ellison sighting or Ayodele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Merriman was brought in the lock down the IR LB position after Kawika was dumped. HAHA....ughhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Draft stud passrushing DE (Bowers,Quinn)and MLB, start Troup, switch to 4-3 problem solved. 3-4 is over rated as players make the difference not schemes and this team is more suited for 4-3. Our best defensive player is better suited as an under DT. Troup could be the space eater in a 4-3 with Stroud and Edwards spelling them. Starting lineup DL: Bowers or Quinn, Williams, Troup,(Kelsay/Carrington/Johnson) LB: Poz/MLB/Torbor or FA upgrade I don't have a problem with the schemes they run. 3-4 or 4-3 is fine. I think the real issue is they should be playing a two-gap defense instead of the one-gap we played under Jauran. I actually think it'll help the team out in the future to be able to play both 3-4 and 4-3. I like being able to give teams the 3-4 under look (one-gap) at times while also being able to go with a 4-3 and 3-4 two-gap look. Going to a 4-3 doesn't hide the fact that our LBs are still crap for the most part and need to be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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