gjv001 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Perhaps now is the best time to start planning a new home for the Bills in WNY. Whether it be in Niagara Falls, Batavia, Orchard Park or East Buffalo by the Rock Pile. The sooner we can settle on a site and find financing the better the chance the Bills will remain in WNY. Charles Schumer has stated on more than one occasion that he will fight to keep the Bills in WNY.Maybe he could find some federal dollars for financing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Where do you fans get this? This team SUCKS! The ownership sucks and there is no clear succession plan. So you want to have the good people of WNY fork over more in taxes to pay for a stadium for THIS team? Uh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinegun12 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Where do you fans get this? This team SUCKS! The ownership sucks and there is no clear succession plan. So you want to have the good people of WNY fork over more in taxes to pay for a stadium for THIS team? Uh no. You know what would be hilarious? Buffalo doing something as silly as building a stadium now and THEN the Bills leave a year or two later. I am laughing hysterically thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 The only way WNY can finance a new stadium is if we form our own state or poop out NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Perhaps now is the best time to start planning a new home for the Bills in WNY. Whether it be in Niagara Falls, Batavia, Orchard Park or East Buffalo by the Rock Pile. The sooner we can settle on a site and find financing the better the chance the Bills will remain in WNY. Charles Schumer has stated on more than one occasion that he will fight to keep the Bills in WNY.Maybe he could find some federal dollars for financing. Typical WNY person. Looking for the handout from the State or Feds to pay for his lifestyle. Sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Worst team in football at the moment with what many consider the worst management and ownership as well. A uncertain future when the elderly owner passes. Yeah that sounds like a recipe for getting all kinds of financial backing for a new Bills stadium. Even New York State isn't that !@#$ing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Typical WNY person. Looking for the handout from the State or Feds to pay for his lifestyle. Sad.. Unfortunately, when they do leave, part of the issue with be financing a new owner is able to persuade a new city to cough up. So my question is, is it OK to cough up money to support GEICO, HSBC, Verizon, and Yahoo, all highly profitable and non-government business? Or how about the small businesses that get handouts in the form or low or no-interst loans and tax incentives? They supposedly our "lifestyles" as well because the companies supposedly hire employees and pay taxes that support schools and cultural organizations. I'm against tax incentives and handouts in any instance. However, no community or region can compete in a global economy wihtuot them, which is why they so prevelent from professional sports teams to small plumbing companies. Why? It's an economic concept and related to game theory, the idea is called a prisoner's dilemma (you can Wiki it). In simplest terms,the most equitable and efficient market doesn't offer incentives or tax breaks and therefore the market operates efficiently. However, some places choose to tilt the playing field in their favor by offer tax breaks and incentives in an effort to draw businesses to their area and gain a competitive advantage. So the "prisoner's dilemma" is faced by the community not doing the same. They can either stand on ideological grounds and lose the battle for businesses and residents, or they can chose to play along, which is not the optimum solution for everyone but is for an individual community. So its too simple to take a ideological stance on funding a new stadium because it fails to recognize the realities of the marketplace. I would argue this: The NFL is a global brand and there are 32 teams. Buffalo has one and would be foolish to stand on ideological grounds and let someone take the team by offering a stadium or some sort of incentive package. At it's basic, you letting 50+ millioanires leaves you community and the economic impact they alone have, even if they're parttime residents. Then you have all the employees and business that rely on the team. Plus, and maybe more importantly, it lends credibility and visibility to Buffalo and keeps the area on the map in the global economy. I think what these places like Niagara County and others who hand out breaks to big companies like the Verizon, Geico and Yahoo should do is make it a condition of the agreement that they buy boces at Bills and Sabres games. It's a tax right off anyway and its a roundabout way to get the team some much needed help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 New stadium would be sweet down on the waterfront.you know the land that the nfta owns that's been under developed for the last 50 years.if we start the study group on the land by the first of the year our new home could be built by 2037-89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Perhaps now is the best time to start planning a new home for the Bills in WNY. Whether it be in Niagara Falls, Batavia, Orchard Park or East Buffalo by the Rock Pile. The sooner we can settle on a site and find financing the better the chance the Bills will remain in WNY. Charles Schumer has stated on more than one occasion that he will fight to keep the Bills in WNY.Maybe he could find some federal dollars for financing. Would it be possible to plan a winning team first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Even New York State isn't that !@#$ing stupid. Umm, Oh yes, they are. Obviously you don't live here. If you do, you must be just as oblivious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Even New York State isn't that !@#$ing stupid. Yeah, it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 A 200,000 seat stadium suspended over the Amerikan side of the falls. Have it hovering in the air from a quad-pod. It's like a tripod with one more leg! All sorts of celebrities would show up... like Alan Thicke and the entire cast of 21 Jump Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Even New York State isn't that !@#$ing stupid. Yeah, NYS would never support a vessle to go from Rochester to Toronto with no business plan either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Yeah, NYS would never support a vessle to go from Rochester to Toronto with no business plan either... Actually the business plan was sound. The plan was to be hauling trucks back and forth as the main source of revenue. That's why the thing was so freaking huge. The problem is, they delayed that part of it for some reason and the project failed. Execution incompetence, not lack of a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas56 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 The only way WNY can finance a new stadium is if we form our own state or poop out NYC. This is a common misconception. New York City, the home of all those fat paychecks for Wall Street, actually brings more taxes in than it takes out. It is Upstate, home of the disappearing jobs, that is the net taker of state resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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