ieatcrayonz Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Holy Crap these people are beating the snot out of each other because they won't get government pensions until they're 62? 62?????? These people are realllllllly lazy and afraid of life. I mean I have as much or more respect for old people than anyone and even I realize that at 62 people are far beyond the age where they can contribute to society. I get it. But still. I think France should make them at least show up for work so they don't wander around the streets bothering other people all day and feeding squirrels and then the squirrels just repopulate and cause more problems. They should be forced into continuing to work at nothing all day in goverment offices and thus restricting their bothersome antics to other useless government employees. This would keep the squirrel and pigeon population down even if it wouldn't help the anemic GDP of France. It is addition by subtraction for the "productive" segment of the Frenchie population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think France should make them at least show up for work so they don't wander around the streets bothering other people all day and feeding squirrels and then the squirrels just repopulate and cause more problems. They should be forced into continuing to work at nothing all day in goverment offices and thus restricting their bothersome antics to other useless government employees. This would keep the squirrel and pigeon population down even if it wouldn't help the anemic GDP of France. I knew you hated squirrels, NG...but what do you have against pigeons now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Part of France's population problem is that their bravest and most pioneering people migrated to the New World. Granted most of them went to Canada, which isn't saying much. So considering the fact that the only people left in France are the descendants of people who couldn't even qualify to be Canadian, are you surprised at what's going on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 This whole rioting thingy could be solved if the Vichy government would announce that the Nazis were coming. The streets would become empty in anticipation of the victory parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Part of France's population problem is that their bravest and most pioneering people migrated to the New World. Granted most of them went to Canada, which isn't saying much. So considering the fact that the only people left in France are the descendants of people who couldn't even qualify to be Canadian, are you surprised at what's going on there? Unless you have watered down the word pioneering to mean "able to build an igloo" then I'm not sure I'm following that part. The rest is a series of good points. But didn't most of the Frenchies move to Quebec and they still haven't learned the native English even after hundreds of years? Somehow they still act all snooty toward other Canadians like they're smarter or something? Ok Pierre, you're smarter than the average Saskatchewanite. Awesome. What's next to be proud about? You're a better driver than Stevie Wonder? Geez. As for the Frenchies, what is the big deal about "working" for an extra two years? Most Americans hang around bothering their co-workers with useles anecdotes of days gone by until they're 65. These American codgers don't seem to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Holy Crap these people are beating the snot out of each other because they won't get government pensions until they're 62? 62?????? These people are realllllllly lazy and afraid of life. I mean I have as much or more respect for old people than anyone and even I realize that at 62 people are far beyond the age where they can contribute to society. I get it. But still. I think France should make them at least show up for work so they don't wander around the streets bothering other people all day and feeding squirrels and then the squirrels just repopulate and cause more problems. They should be forced into continuing to work at nothing all day in goverment offices and thus restricting their bothersome antics to other useless government employees. This would keep the squirrel and pigeon population down even if it wouldn't help the anemic GDP of France. It is addition by subtraction for the "productive" segment of the Frenchie population. :w00t: :w00t: they still haven't learned the native English Did not know the pre- Jacques Cartier Iroquois and Hurons were speaking english!!! Just remember Canada was French before it was English. Those canadian englishmen, most of them loyalists fleeing from the newly independant USA, are the one who have never wanted to learn the language spoken in their new land... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Holy Crap these people are beating the snot out of each other because they won't get government pensions until they're 62? 62?????? These people are realllllllly lazy and afraid of life. I mean I have as much or more respect for old people than anyone and even I realize that at 62 people are far beyond the age where they can contribute to society. I get it. But still. I think France should make them at least show up for work so they don't wander around the streets bothering other people all day and feeding squirrels and then the squirrels just repopulate and cause more problems. They should be forced into continuing to work at nothing all day in goverment offices and thus restricting their bothersome antics to other useless government employees. This would keep the squirrel and pigeon population down even if it wouldn't help the anemic GDP of France. It is addition by subtraction for the "productive" segment of the Frenchie population. But if the Frenchies work until 62 they will be stealing jobs from the immigrants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Part of France's population problem is that their bravest and most pioneering people migrated to the New World. Granted most of them went to Canada, which isn't saying much. So considering the fact that the only people left in France are the descendants of people who couldn't even qualify to be Canadian, are you surprised at what's going on there? The remaining masculinity was cleansed from their gene pool in WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 But if the Frenchies work until 62 they will be stealing jobs from the immigrants! By "immigrants" you mean the people who will actually pay those pensions!! Because without immigrants i do not know who will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 By "immigrants" you mean the people who will actually pay those pensions!! Because without immigrants i do not know who will... Shouldnt you be out rioting or something? Maybe burning a few Renults, or VW's?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 France raised retirement age and there is rioting in the streets. The US raises the retirement age smart Americans yawn and increase contributions to their 401k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Shouldnt you be out rioting or something? Maybe burning a few Renults, or VW's?? For what? That pension reform is very moderate and not going far enough. It still makes all the commies go in the streets as usual... i live in the countryside, Spain (and cheap available oil) is 5 miles away , a reason why i moved here is that i do not have to deal with that kind of stuff anymore. It's life as usual here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 For what? That pension reform is very moderate and not going far enough. It still makes all the commies go in the streets as usual... i live in the countryside, Spain (and cheap available oil) is 5 miles away , a reason why i moved here is that i do not have to deal with that kind of stuff anymore. It's life as usual here. Which is the real agenda here. Communists cannot win elections, even in places like France. The only way Communists can come to power is by creating violence and civil unrest, and then positioning themselves as the "savior". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) Which is the real agenda here. Communists cannot win elections, even in places like France. The only way Communists can come to power is by creating violence and civil unrest, and then positioning themselves as the "savior". The real agenda? Unions are trying to block all reforms with behind them a base of millions of baby boomers state workers, the golden generation who had never to deal with unemployement, enjoyed low real estate prices in the 70ies and 80ies, is retiring at 60 and will make their sons and grand sons pay for the bill... Socialists are behind them hoping the "anger" will help them win the next elections in the spring of 2012... but they play with fire... if that reform can not pass because of the current unrest , they will have to make a new and probably tougher one once in charge!! On the political side the far left can use this stuff to gain ground for the first round of the '12 presidential elections. If their probably 2 candidates can reach the 12-15% plateau they can be in position to ask the socialists for a couple of low profile seats in the government. Edited October 22, 2010 by olivier in france Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 The real agenda? Unions are trying to block all reforms with behind them a base of millions of baby boomers state workers, the golden generation who had never to deal with unemployement, enjoyed low real estate prices in the 70ies and 80ies, is retiring at 60 and will make their sons and grand sons pay for the bill... Socialists are behind them hoping the "anger" will help them win the next elections in the spring of 2012... but they play with fire... if that reform can not pass because of the current unrest , they will have to make a new and probably tougher one once in charge!! On the political side the far left can use this stuff to gain ground for the first round of the '12 presidential elections. If their probably 2 candidates can reach the 12-15% plateau they can be in position to ask the socialists for a couple of low profile seats in the government. I'll give this to the French: at least their government has the huevos to try and cut spending. Here, our beloved Democratic government is spending like drunken sailors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 this is not that easy to explain, so i'll try my best in english language. I think these rioters are dumb and ineffective if they really want to change something. They target workers in order to make them unable to work instead of targeting government, and that's dumb and not couragous. Yes, it's not a big deal to work 2 more years. There are 2 mains problems in France. At 1st, low profile workers think that CEO/managers all cheat on them. They think they hard work for a very low wage although managers aren't doing anything for 3-10 time their salary. 2nd, it's harder than any other country to find a job, because it's harder for a manager to fire/release a worker. In France you cannot (officially) fire a man like that. I'm not sure to explain well, but it's like a vicious circle because there's no flexibility. btw, saying that every french is lazy is as fair as saying every american is dumb and arrogant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think these rioters are dumb and ineffective And expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Here, our beloved Democratic government is spending like drunken sailors. Supported by the weekly Paul Krugman column sounding the "We Didn't Spend Enough!" alarm, as if writing the same thing over and over will suddenly convince the world that he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Supported by the weekly Paul Krugman column sounding the "We Didn't Spend Enough!" alarm, as if writing the same thing over and over will suddenly convince the world that he's right. How far did you get? I read three lines and quit. I think he might be conner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 btw, saying that every french is lazy is as fair as saying every american is dumb and arrogant... Did you mean North American? In this case I would disagree with arrogant, but Canada certainly has more than enough dumb for the whole continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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