John from Riverside Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner BINGO. Did anyone not see what the Patriots just did? They traded a good player in a contract year for a draft pick because he isn't in the long term plans. What did the Bills do? THE EXACT SAME THING. This is how you consistently build a winner. The last time we did this with a player was Ko Simpson and it was a 7th rounder at that. I actually think this was part of the plan with edwards - unless he really lit the world on fire. Nix actually has a plan, and despite what TG and Sully say - they would have gotten less for Marshawn (no better hten a 4th was offered according to multipe reports) in the offseason then now. And yes, a conditional 6th is still something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I am telling you we need to part ways with a few more, some that would really cause the fanbase to slit their wrists lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 idk im still skeptical, we really needed o line and linebacker help and we didnt get any of it in the draft. Im a big fan of spiller and all but i mean at this point (assuming spiller is good) we have crappy wideouts, tight ends, qbs, tackles, and maybe even guards (wood has not looked the same since injury) on the other side, our lbs suck and our d line sucks. So basically we need a whole lot of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInLV Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) We took a dynamic Rookie like Spiller this year who will either be 'decent' with our O-Line situation this year or could hide some of our O Line woes. Next year we go O-Line early in the draft (and/or stud FA OL pick-up) when Spiller hits his year two 'stride' behind a fortified Line. Just my thoughts. Edited October 6, 2010 by BillsFanInLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner I'm on board with the purge too but I'm absolutely mystified as to why they're not purging Kelsay. Rather, they gave him a sizable contract extension. I continue to be baffled by this and struggle with it. He's old, under-performs, has no idea what he's doing, and has no business even starting on any NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner All fine & well - who wouldn't be in favor of dumping non-performers and dead wood, but isn't that what the OTAs, training camp, and preseason was supposed to reveal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner Have you considered that a number of the players, maybe even more than half of them, would WANT to be traded at this point? I'm not trying to start any chit here, but the team is most likely 2-3 years away from a serious playoff run with a lot of holes to fill along the way. And that is going to require good drafting and trades, which Lord knows has not been the Bills strength. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there may are a fairly high number of players on the team that are looking to get traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poz_is_God Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 im not sure if your paying attention or anything, but donte whitner is without a DOUBT our best tackling defensive back on the team. he's leading all players in tackles right now and is proving why we took him 8th overall in 2006. i think we should keep whitner, but yes, kick mccargo to the curb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 All fine & well - who wouldn't be in favor of dumping non-performers and dead wood, but isn't that what the OTAs, training camp, and preseason was supposed to reveal? If we based everything off of that, then Trent Edwards would still be our starting QB. Nix/Gailey are evaluating the players based on how they perform in real, regular-season games. That's a much better indicator of talent and/or the drive to win in a player than how they perform in OTA's or pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I am telling you we need to part ways with a few more, some that would really cause the fanbase to slit their wrists lol. Cornell Freaking Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 im not sure if your paying attention or anything, but donte whitner is without a DOUBT our best tackling defensive back on the team. he's leading all players in tackles right now and is proving why we took him 8th overall in 2006. i think we should keep whitner, but yes, kick mccargo to the curb Wow. Extend him, indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner Whitner does not need to go anywhere, he may not have not performed as a 1st round shoud have but he is better than G Wilson and Scott idk im still skeptical, we really needed o line and linebacker help and we didnt get any of it in the draft. Im a big fan of spiller and all but i mean at this point (assuming spiller is good) we have crappy wideouts, tight ends, qbs, tackles, and maybe even guards (wood has not looked the same since injury) on the other side, our lbs suck and our d line sucks. So basically we need a whole lot of everything Did we not draft 2 LB's in the draft this year Moats and Batten.... Cornell Freaking Green AMEN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Moats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 BINGO. Did anyone not see what the Patriots just did? They traded a good player in a contract year for a draft pick because he isn't in the long term plans. What did the Bills do? THE EXACT SAME THING. This is how you consistently build a winner. The last time we did this with a player was Ko Simpson and it was a 7th rounder at that. I actually think this was part of the plan with edwards - unless he really lit the world on fire. Nix actually has a plan, and despite what TG and Sully say - they would have gotten less for Marshawn (no better hten a 4th was offered according to multipe reports) in the offseason then now. And yes, a conditional 6th is still something... Well how is a 24 year old, 2x 1,000 yard rusher, who has been to the pro-bowl...NOT in your long-term plans??? That is just retarded and it WILL cost them! (Now in a year, we have to go out and draft Jackson's replacement...somebody who can pound the ball and be the #1 RB...SPILLER will not cut it as a workhorse!) The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner Comparing what McCargo is worth to this team with what Whitner is worth to this team...is a complete joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I will refrain from judging any of this until we are at this point of the season next year. I am curious to see if there really is a plan, or if we just have our collective heads shoved up where the sun does not shine once again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 If we based everything off of that, then Trent Edwards would still be our starting QB. Nix/Gailey are evaluating the players based on how they perform in real, regular-season games. That's a much better indicator of talent and/or the drive to win in a player than how they perform in OTA's or pre-season. Ah...so you're saying the Bills need 5 or 6 regular season games to figure out who are their best players, while the rest of the NFL figures that out before the season opener. Thanks for clearing that up. So after this Sunday, hopefully Chan/Buddy will finally know who should be starting, who should be benched, and who should be released of traded. Can we wipe the slate clean and re-start the season at 0-0 after the bye week? (And regarding Trent Edwards, Gailey/Nix should have figured out from tape of previous seasons that Edwards didn't have the mentality or physical tools be be a starting NFL QB, and should have been working Brohm with the starting offensive unit throughout training camp and in every preseason game.) I hate to think how many regular season games we'll have to burn finalizing our roster when the NFL goes to 18 regular and only 2 preseason games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The plan is pretty much cristal clear to me...... - Get rid of the non performers....for WHATEVER we can get - Work your way to the top of the draft board - Figure out who are gamers and who are not Next to go should be McCargo and Whitner LMAO. You forgot to add: Extend non-performers, Chris Kelsay Draft in areas of non need: CJ Spiller Don't address weaknesses: Oline - D-Line - ETC - ETC - ETC Yeah, keep it up Buddy, I'm right there with ya too! Maybe next year we'll take Mark Ingram with the #1 pick to be the feature back, and Spiller can be the change of pace back. We'll then trade Freddy J for a #5, and we'll really be rolling then. CMON man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 That is just retarded and it WILL cost them! (Now in a year, we have to go out and draft Jackson's replacement...somebody who can pound the ball and be the #1 RB...SPILLER will not cut it as a workhorse!) How high of a draft pick did we need to spend to get Fred Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 All fine & well - who wouldn't be in favor of dumping non-performers and dead wood, but isn't that what the OTAs, training camp, and preseason was supposed to reveal? Not if we didn't want to win this year.....doing that would make the team competative enough to go at least 8-8.....someting they DONT want....its either playoffs or 0-16 We need a QB to biuld around in the worst kind of way.....we need to be in the "Sam Bradford" range in this upcoming draft Have you considered that a number of the players, maybe even more than half of them, would WANT to be traded at this point? I'm not trying to start any chit here, but the team is most likely 2-3 years away from a serious playoff run with a lot of holes to fill along the way. And that is going to require good drafting and trades, which Lord knows has not been the Bills strength. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there may are a fairly high number of players on the team that are looking to get traded. - The only way this team is going to get better is by drafting and drafting well....I have faith in Nix in that area. - Anybody that WANTS to be traded should in fact be traded and for anything we can get....that is also the reason why we need good draft selection. Lets get some TALENT on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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