CJ Spiller to get about 12 carries per game

[EastRochBillsfan]

Because of Spiller's perceived ability to "take it to the house" every time he touches the ball, just having him on the field is going to screw with the defenders minds. I could see the Bills having Lynch, Jackson and Spiller on the field at the same time, with Spiller split out or in motion. The D is going to have to put one of its better players on Spiller, which should open it up for the receivers, including the TE. So whether he get 10 or 15 or 25 touches per game, his mere presence on the field should make the Bills offense substantially better.

I agree

[tonyjustbcuz]

I would be happy with him getting 15-18 touches a game. Sounds about right to me.

 

 

Sounds like there may be an odd man out of the trio of RB's and I think that it will be Lynch. I think You'll see Spiller get about 15 and Jackson about 15 which doesn't leave much for Lynch. I sure hope he gets traded for something or someone at this point!

[Thoner7]

No one should be suprised by this. This guys role is going to be identical to Reggie Bush's, and I expect less production (not because of him exactly, but because the Saints are a much better team overall).

 

Spiller should be used,IMO, the same way Harvin was used for the Vikes last year. WR 90% of the O snaps he saw, lined up in the back field 3-5 times a game, and the teams main punt and kick returner.

 

With that said, Total luxary pick and not a wise move. Just more of the same from the same old [under .500] Bills.

[Mark Long Beach]

Spiller should be used,IMO, the same way Harvin was used for the Vikes last year. WR 90% of the O snaps he saw, lined up in the back field 3-5 times a game, and the teams main punt and kick returner.

 

With that said, Total luxary pick and not a wise move. Just more of the same from the same old [under .500] Bills.

 

Nice, pretty reasonable post. I agree that it's a bit of a risky pick. If he proves to be a game changer like Johnson, Peterson or even Bush, we will definitely win. If he's more like <long list> than we lose the gamble. I'm more an OL kind of guy, but we have very few difference makers on offense.

 

Last year we were defficient on both player quality AND scheme. Hopefully we will have a good scheme. Hopefully We've added RB that will improve player quality. Both of our RB's we already have were good, but neither could pick up a large chunk of yards. Especially Lynch. I love his bruising, always falling forward style. But I hate that it added up to 4 yards at best.

 

I disagree that it's the same old Bills. We now have the scouts in charge, with the coaches or GM wannabees as secondary. I don't care what position we draft, I just want my draft to look like:

 

1> Hall of Famer

2> Hall of Famer

3> Pro-Bowler

4> Pro-Bowler

5> Pro-Bowler

6> Pro-Bowler

7> Pro-Bowler

 

The closer we are to that, I don't care what their positions are.

 

If Spiller is a Hall-of-Famer or Pro-Bowler it was a good pick.

[Beebe's Kid]

Awesome. So our 9th round overall pick, the third first round RB we've taken in the past six years, won't even get 50% of the snaps?

 

But he's fast. So it's okay.

 

Wow...well when you put it like that, Sunshine...

 

Are you having a bad day, or are you always this miserable? <<<< if anything that a fan on a message board makes you feel like this, you need one of the following: 1. A blowjob 2. A doobie 3. A lobotomy 4. To bump up your Prozac 5. All of the above.

[Endless Ike]

Spiller's too small to be an every down back. His body won't take the pounding. He'll be a tremendous assett 3rd down when we need to get between 4-8 yards. The closest players to him of recent vintage are Warrick Dunn and Reggie Bush.

 

you realize he's almost the same exact size as thurman thomas, chris johnson and any number of other "every down" backs, right?

[Thoner7]

you realize he's almost the same exact size as thurman thomas, chris johnson and any number of other "every down" backs, right?

 

Im worried more about his skill set than size.

[Pilsner]

Im worried more about his skill set than size.

 

 

He's fast, quick, agile, can turn on a dime, reads blocks well, can line up wide and makes catches that remind me of Thurman. He's also a very hard worker. He lacks experience with blocking, but that xp will come in time. With his worth ethic i'm sure he'll be willing to learn it. So you're not too worried about his size. If not that, then what are your concerns about his skill set?

[Art in PNS]

I think Clayton is a tool, but if Spiller gets 12 carries a game this year and 3 or 4 returns and 4-5 screens/end arounds or whatever gailey dreams up for him he will cause headaches for the defense. I think the spiller pick is more damaging to Roscoe than Marshawn this year. After 1 year in the league Freddie will be older , Marshawn ??? . Bell on the practice squad for a year , maybe he moves up next year.

[RealityCheck]

Sounds like there may be an odd man out of the trio of RB's and I think that it will be Lynch. I think You'll see Spiller get about 15 and Jackson about 15 which doesn't leave much for Lynch. I sure hope he gets traded for something or someone at this point!

If Jackson goes down with an injury you would feel comfortable with just CJ and a bunch of nobodies at RB? I am not. I love the CJ pick but I also don't want to let go of Lynch until after the season at this point, and who knows, Lynch could decide to truly step up this year.

[ganesh]

If Spiller gets on the field and moves the chains, he will become our main back 1st down, 2nd down, 3rd down...it doesn't matter. I believe that this staff will put the best players at each position on the field...If the same happems for Marshwan or Fred, then so be it.

 

Fred Jackson is 30 years old and really has only a couple of years left in the NFL and also is one bad injury away, since it takes longer to heal at that age....This coaching staff will figure a way to get Spiller on the field if he happens to play the best.

[Ozymandius]

15 touches a game for his rookie year would be fine. I'm not even sure it's prudent to give him 30 touches a game. You risk wearing him out both over the course of the game and the course of the season. 15-20 fresh, explosive touches a game should be what we're aiming for here.

[Guest dog14787]

Spiller's too small to be an every down back. His body won't take the pounding. He'll be a tremendous assett 3rd down when we need to get between 4-8 yards. The closest players to him of recent vintage are Warrick Dunn and Reggie Bush.

 

 

agree (3rd down specialist and pepper him in on occasion to keep the defense on its heels)

 

Can't wait!

[Ozymandius]

More important than the raw number of touches he gets, I'm going to judge his rookie season on three things:

 

1. He needs to demonstrate the ability to avoid big hits. I want to see him have the instincts to duck his head at the last second or make that one final cut to avoid engaging tacklers head on. Small guys don't last in this league if they continue to rack up high-speed collisions. To me, it's okay for a guy like Spiller to step out of bounds if he's going to get whacked by staying inbounds.

 

2. Along the same health lines, I don't want to see any pulled hammies or groins or other little nicks that sap his explosiveness. If he can make it through 16 games and still be an explosive guy in Game 16 while getting 15 touches a game, I'll be very happy.

 

3. Talent. Can he move the chains for whichever young QB we have in there when given a short dumpoff? Can he provide a few long TDs over the course of season? That's why we drafted him, right? I don't expect a huge rookie year numbers-wise because the talent around him sucks. But if he can consistently flash his talent, then we'll know that in two or three years when the Bills hopefully have more talent on the roster, he'll put up big numbers.

[bluenews]

John Clayton does a good job of stating the obvious. Nothing new here!!! A credible source would have acknowledged the plan for special teams and kick/punt returns!

[Thoner7]

He's fast, quick, agile, can turn on a dime, reads blocks well, can line up wide and makes catches that remind me of Thurman. He's also a very hard worker. He lacks experience with blocking, but that xp will come in time. With his worth ethic i'm sure he'll be willing to learn it. So you're not too worried about his size. If not that, then what are your concerns about his skill set?

 

He has never commited to running between the tackles and always bounces things outside. He relies on his speed to beat defenders.

 

In a league where he will be playing LBers who have the same 40 time as him, and a league where every team has multiple DBs who are faster than him, that does not work.

 

He is a hard target to hit, because he is shifty, but you cant dance between the tackles, and you cannot dance running behind our OL because there is no hole to piss through let alone run through.

 

Spiller will not find much success as a pure RB. His success will be catching passes and returning kicks.

 

So now we took a kick returner and part-time RB with the 9th over all pick? More of the same from the same old Bills.

[Guest dog14787]

He has never commited to running between the tackles and always bounces things outside. He relies on his speed to beat defenders.

 

In a league where he will be playing LBers who have the same 40 time as him, and a league where every team has multiple DBs who are faster than him, that does not work.

 

He is a hard target to hit, because he is shifty, but you cant dance between the tackles, and you cannot dance running behind our OL because there is no hole to piss through let alone run through.

 

Spiller will not find much success as a pure RB. His success will be catching passes and returning kicks.

 

So now we took a kick returner and part-time RB with the 9th over all pick? More of the same from the same old Bills.

 

I doubt you will find many LB's that can run with Spiller.

[Kelly the Dog]

He has never commited to running between the tackles and always bounces things outside. He relies on his speed to beat defenders.

 

In a league where he will be playing LBers who have the same 40 time as him, and a league where every team has multiple DBs who are faster than him, that does not work.

 

He is a hard target to hit, because he is shifty, but you cant dance between the tackles, and you cannot dance running behind our OL because there is no hole to piss through let alone run through.

 

Spiller will not find much success as a pure RB. His success will be catching passes and returning kicks.

 

So now we took a kick returner and part-time RB with the 9th over all pick? More of the same from the same old Bills.

That's not really true, IMO. He relies on his vision, cutting ability, quick decision making, acceleration, AND his speed to beat defenders, all of which are very good. He ran between the tackles all the time at Clemson, and doesn't always take things outside.

 

Now, I'm not at all saying that he is a punishing runner, or a workhorse tailback looking to pound it inside. But he's not at all just a scat back, and he does run between the tackles. He's extremely good at running into the hole (provided there is a small one) and making one quick short cut and then exploding. Freddy Jackson did that quite well last year. Spiller does that quicker and faster. His acceleration impresses me more than his speed.

[Guest dog14787]

That's not really true, IMO. He relies on his vision, cutting ability, quick decision making, acceleration, AND his speed to beat defenders, all of which are very good. He ran between the tackles all the time at Clemson, and doesn't always take things outside.

 

Now, I'm not at all saying that he is a punishing runner, or a workhorse tailback looking to pound it inside. But he's not at all just a scat back, and he does run between the tackles. He's extremely good at running into the hole (provided there is a small one) and making one quick short cut and then exploding. Freddy Jackson did that quite well last year. Spiller does that quicker and faster. His acceleration impresses me more than his speed.

 

I agree, Spiller probably could/would do anything asked of him and have great success doing it, but would also wear down over the long haul unless precautions were taken and a limit set on his usage.