Sisyphean Bills Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 They need to reload talent at the OT positions, that much is patently obvious. Counting on scrubs to "switch the light on" and excel despite all evidence to the contrary is just fool's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Beeeews Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Wasn't he essentially hurt most of the year? Didn't he look pretty solid in his limited action while he was healthy? I'm interested in hearing what I missed watching the games - I don't remember ever being very upset with what I saw from him, but maybe I've forgotten. It just seems like so much of the screaming about the state of our offensive line was ignoring the fact that 3/5 starters were out much of the year. Please - tell me which games I should look back at - I have them recorded - to find where Bell sucks - particularly for a guy coming in with so little experience and room to continue developing physically. Yes, I'm sure...Everywhere like such as...WAR Miss Teen South Carolina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Whether or not Bell can be a good OLT or ORT is irrelevant. We do not have enough talented OTs on this roster. If Bell can beat out Rookie, Meredith, FA and whomever else they have....then he's good enough. You can't just hand it to him like they did in '09 though. That was the cruelest joke of '09. Dude, Roseanne Barr could beat out Yoko Ono in a singing contest, but that doesn't make her an opera star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Good luck with that... may as well have his dad at LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Anyone who thinks DJ made the call on releasing Walker is entirely too naive. That decision was made on-high once it was clear he was too fat and slow. I'd say it was more people like Overdorf who figured they could score some points by saving money with that contract. The decision makers at certain levels are still there at OBD. I'm not saying Walker was a top OT, but teams have enough positions of need each season. They shouldn't be creating any more, but the Bills have made a habit of this since Dick Levy took over. Let a player go in UFA or trade and then attempt to draft their replacement. Four years later it's rebuilding time again. You are confusing an out and out guess with a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 With Butler retiring, they'll keep him for sure now.. he may end up being our RT if they draft someone to play LT. Unlikely. Bell has never been the strongest guy, and RTs need to be a lot stronger than LTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Dude, Roseanne Barr could beat out Yoko Ono in a singing contest, but that doesn't make her an opera star. Yoko kicks ass. As of Butler's retirement, none of our tackles do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I don't think anyone can tell much about him from his time so far. He didn't play much his first season and last year he suffered a back injury that I believe hurt him whenever he played. The question to me is if he can stay healthy. If he can he has some potential. LT? Maybe not but with Butler retiring he may be worked in at RT with the possibility of swinging to LT at a later time. The Bills need depth at both tackle positions so they need to get at least one more stud tackle. Let Bell compete and the best two start. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 That strategy works in two cases. Number one, you should get Bill Polian as your GM. Number two, you should have an extremely stable line that has worked together for years and thus can allow one guy to come in with a minimum of disruption. How do you figure either one of those will work out for the Bills? Matt Light, the Pats* LT was a second-rounder, and again moved into a very stable solid, savvy OL. McNeill, the Chargers LT was also a second-rounder and also moved into a very stable solid veteran OL. We don't have anything like a veteran stable o-line, just the opposite in fact. Well said. Add to it that each of those teams give their mid-round lineman time on the bench to learn a system and then join a stable group. We have holes at LT and RT. We need to draft a top OT prospect that has a chance to contribute now. We also need one verteran OT on the roster that can actually play this game, and I am not talking about Jonathan Scott. Meredith and Bell are projects that should not be counted on as starters. If they develop that is great but we saw nothing last year to indicate that either is ready to be a top flight starting caliber OT in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Well said. Add to it that each of those teams give their mid-round lineman time on the bench to learn a system and then join a stable group. We have holes at LT and RT. We need to draft a top OT prospect that has a chance to contribute now. We also need one verteran OT on the roster that can actually play this game, and I am not talking about Jonathan Scott. Meredith and Bell are projects that should not be counted on as starters. If they develop that is great but we saw nothing last year to indicate that either is ready to be a top flight starting caliber OT in this league. There's a different article about him at RF365. To bad the writer is stoned if he thinks Bell will ever be any good. http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/bills/14777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 You are confusing an out and out guess with a fact. dude i read that brandon wimped out and that guy forced walker on jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 This is the reason I really, really, really want to see Bell do well for Buffalo. (Other than filling a much needed position) http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080507 Malone reportedly impregnated Bell's mother when she was 13 and he was a sophomore at Louisiana Tech __________________________________________ It would be one thing if Malone was unable to financially provide for his son, but he made more than $100 million during his NBA career. The Salt Lake (Utah) Tribune reported that when Bell's grandparents initially took Malone to court for paternity in 1986, his second year with the Jazz, they requested Malone pay $200 a week. Malone didn't respond to the suit, but a Louisiana judge ruled he was Bell's father -- after a paternity test showed that was indeed accurate -- and ordered Malone to pay $125 a week, plus past and future medical expenses. Malone claimed that was too much and later reached a confidential out-of-court settlement with Bell's family between 1988 and 1989. ___________________________________________ A decade ago, Malone and his wife -- with whom he has fathered four children -- spoke at a conference on families and talked openly about the children Malone has fathered outside of their marriage. Of course, the Malones were talking about Daryl and Cheryl, not Demetrius. Malone told the audience: "Everything I've been through, everything I'm about to go through in my career and my life, if my family wasn't with me and didn't support me, it would be really tough." Bell's mother asked for $10, 400 per year and Malone thought that was too high?! He wanted to pay $6,500 per year. When the Bills go to the SB I want Bell to be their starting LT so this story will get worldwide attention and embarrass the out of Malone. I will laugh my ass off when 100 or more news outlets want to talk to Malone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbuk3 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Wasn't he essentially hurt most of the year? Didn't he look pretty solid in his limited action while he was healthy? I'm interested in hearing what I missed watching the games - I don't remember ever being very upset with what I saw from him, but maybe I've forgotten. It just seems like so much of the screaming about the state of our offensive line was ignoring the fact that 3/5 starters were out much of the year. Please - tell me which games I should look back at - I have them recorded - to find where Bell sucks - particularly for a guy coming in with so little experience and room to continue developing physically. I remember watching Bell in training camp. Even no-name DL's were beating him badly. They were all lining up just to go against him. I think that I have some video of some of these practices. Bell is in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 They need to reload talent at the OT positions, that much is patently obvious. Counting on scrubs to "switch the light on" and excel despite all evidence to the contrary is just fool's hope. You hit it right on the head we need two more good Offensive lineman at least one of whom can play LT. It really does not matter if Bell could eventually become a starting LT or not. If that does not happen we won't have enough minimal blocking to get the offense to function at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Wasn't he essentially hurt most of the year? Didn't he look pretty solid in his limited action while he was healthy? I'm interested in hearing what I missed watching the games - I don't remember ever being very upset with what I saw from him, but maybe I've forgotten. It just seems like so much of the screaming about the state of our offensive line was ignoring the fact that 3/5 starters were out much of the year. Please - tell me which games I should look back at - I have them recorded - to find where Bell sucks - particularly for a guy coming in with so little experience and room to continue developing physically. Maybe the Bills need to take another look at Joel Bell who signed with the Rough Riders of the CFL after he was cut in training camp last year. Bell had an outstanding year with them and played in the Grey Cup game. He is huge, fast and smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 This is the reason I really, really, really want to see Bell do well for Buffalo. (Other than filling a much needed position) http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080507 wow, heavy story. Im rootin for him. Hope he can stay healthy, and if not be productive starter, a good #2 guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't know that that is the right questions. Bell won't be good enough for 2010 so we still need a LT. That being said Bell might not EVER be good enough to be a starting LT. Some have even said he wouldn't be good enough at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 To me Bell didn't seem to be that bad and it wasn't until he was hurt and our starting tackles were Scott and Chambers that our pass protection really went to crap. I still think he may have a future as a decent tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailar Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Year 1 was 2008. The NFL is a "what have you done lately for me" league. Two years into a pro career and I expect a guy not to be one of the most heavily penalized players in the AFCE. The LT position is too critical to the overall success of the entire offense for bargain bin type players. Bell is a wonderful story, and it's changed my take on his father, but hoping and wishing players succeed has left the Bills 0-4 in playoff appearances since 2006/ Sorry to be pedantic but logically speaking someone HAS to be the most penalised in the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Sorry to be pedantic but logically speaking someone HAS to be the most penalised in the AFCE. Don't be...pedants tend towards accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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