Wizard Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I love hearing everyone's free agent ideas (let's get Merriman, Kolb, Wilfork, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders ) However, let's be realistic with free agent thoughts and draft picks. No, we aren't getting Russell Okung or Suh in less we trade up. I'm generally opposed to trading down, but I think most of are in agreeance that the best DT's, OT, and QB will probably be off the board at #9. (Suh, Gerald McCoy, Okung, Clausen/Bradford). The only realistic pick worth the #9 slot is McClain. This is who we should take. However, here is a realistic scenario of the Bills getting some good value by trading down. 1. Trade pick #9 (Draft Value 1,350) to the 49er's for pick #17 (Draft Value 950). The 49er's send their second round pick #49 (Draft Value 410) in the exchange. Bills draft picks are valued now at 1,360 and 49er's at 1,350. 2. The Bills then have picks #17, #41, #48. Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Pick #41 Sergio Kindle (OLB 3-4) The Bills will need another linebacker with a switch to a 3-4. Mock Drafts rate Kindle between #'s 38-50. Pick #49 Selvish Capers (LT) The Bills get a solid LT in the mid second round without having to dish out millions of dollars to a top 10 pick on the disputed second best LT in the draft behind Okung. The Bills then can address a QB (LeFevour in round #3) and depth in rounds 4-7. 3. The 49er's with picks #9 and #13 can focus on their most pressing needs QB (Clausen?), OT (Baluga, Williams, or Campbell, or Davis), or they can go with a CB/S, another need. This is a realistic way of the Bills building through the draft based on biggest needs. And, it makes sense for both the Bills and the 49er's as a likely and reasonable trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I really don't get the value being placed on Dan LeFevour around here. He put up nice numbers, but he played exclusively in a spread (shotgun) and has a suspect arm. Nice developmental backup prospect, but not the answer IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 its a realistic trade down - which is rare on this board. Unfortunately I think we might be wishing we had been the 49ers on draft day in this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trobes Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The 49ers I do not believe are in need of a QB. Smith played well last year, and the emergence of Vernon Davis helped out a lot. I cant see the 49ers taking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfw1234 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I love hearing everyone's free agent ideas (let's get Merriman, Kolb, Wilfork, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders ) However, let's be realistic with free agent thoughts and draft picks. No, we aren't getting Russell Okung or Suh in less we trade up. I'm generally opposed to trading down, but I think most of are in agreeance that the best DT's, OT, and QB will probably be off the board at #9. (Suh, Gerald McCoy, Okung, Clausen/Bradford). The only realistic pick worth the #9 slot is McClain. This is who we should take. However, here is a realistic scenario of the Bills getting some good value by trading down. 1. Trade pick #9 (Draft Value 1,350) to the 49er's for pick #17 (Draft Value 950). The 49er's send their second round pick #49 (Draft Value 410) in the exchange. Bills draft picks are valued now at 1,360 and 49er's at 1,350. 2. The Bills then have picks #17, #41, #48. Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Pick #41 Sergio Kindle (OLB 3-4) The Bills will need another linebacker with a switch to a 3-4. Mock Drafts rate Kindle between #'s 38-50. Pick #49 Selvish Capers (LT) The Bills get a solid LT in the mid second round without having to dish out millions of dollars to a top 10 pick on the disputed second best LT in the draft behind Okung. The Bills then can address a QB (LeFevour in round #3) and depth in rounds 4-7. 3. The 49er's with picks #9 and #13 can focus on their most pressing needs QB (Clausen?), OT (Baluga, Williams, or Campbell, or Davis), or they can go with a CB/S, another need. This is a realistic way of the Bills building through the draft based on biggest needs. And, it makes sense for both the Bills and the 49er's as a likely and reasonable trade partner. you have a good plan/strategery... I'm hoping they go big for LBs, Dline, Oline. bring in a vet fa to compete w/ Brohm for starting qb spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I love hearing everyone's free agent ideas (let's get Merriman, Kolb, Wilfork, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders ) However, let's be realistic with free agent thoughts and draft picks. No, we aren't getting Russell Okung or Suh in less we trade up. I'm generally opposed to trading down, but I think most of are in agreeance that the best DT's, OT, and QB will probably be off the board at #9. (Suh, Gerald McCoy, Okung, Clausen/Bradford). The only realistic pick worth the #9 slot is McClain. This is who we should take. However, here is a realistic scenario of the Bills getting some good value by trading down. 1. Trade pick #9 (Draft Value 1,350) to the 49er's for pick #17 (Draft Value 950). The 49er's send their second round pick #49 (Draft Value 410) in the exchange. Bills draft picks are valued now at 1,360 and 49er's at 1,350. 2. The Bills then have picks #17, #41, #48. Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Pick #41 Sergio Kindle (OLB 3-4) The Bills will need another linebacker with a switch to a 3-4. Mock Drafts rate Kindle between #'s 38-50. Pick #49 Selvish Capers (LT) The Bills get a solid LT in the mid second round without having to dish out millions of dollars to a top 10 pick on the disputed second best LT in the draft behind Okung. The Bills then can address a QB (LeFevour in round #3) and depth in rounds 4-7. 3. The 49er's with picks #9 and #13 can focus on their most pressing needs QB (Clausen?), OT (Baluga, Williams, or Campbell, or Davis), or they can go with a CB/S, another need. This is a realistic way of the Bills building through the draft based on biggest needs. And, it makes sense for both the Bills and the 49er's as a likely and reasonable trade partner. You can trade down lower than 17 and still get Cody. The guy doesnt even play many downs in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Different Boards have QB's at different places. Here is our QB Board at DraftTek right now (before combine, before Senior Bowl). The first number is where they are on our Big Board. 4 *Sam Bradford - currently being picked #4, by WAS 9 *Jimmy Clausen - currently being picked #7, by CLE 18 Colt McCoy - currently being picked #30, by MIN 25 Tim Tebow - currently being picked #11, by JAX 71 Tony Pike - currently being picked #69, by OAK 102 *Jevan Snead - currently being picked #101, by SEA 119 Dan LeFevour - currently being picked #121, by ARI 127 Sean Canfield, Oregon State - currently being picked #128 by Rams 193 Jonathan Crompton, Tennessee - currently being picked #136 by BUF (way early for Crompton IMHO) 199 John Skelton, Fordham - still unpicked when Round 6 Starts 202 Jarrett Brown, WVU - still unpicked when Round 6 Starts 219 Bill Stull, Pittsburgh - still unpicked when Round 6 Starts Further Down: 257 Tim Hiller Western Michigan 264 Mike Kafka Northwestern 290 Zac Robinson Oklahoma State 296 Joe Webb UAB 323 Max Hall BYU 371 Billy Cundiff Ashland 372 Ryan Perrilloux Jacksonville State 387 Matt Grothe South Florida 405 Daryll Clark Penn State 415 Kyle Reed San Jose State 434 Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic 465 Joe Cox Georgia 469 Isiah Williams Illinois 481 Todd Reesing Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Can't we get a similar(at least on paper) player in Arthur Jones, DT from SU, in the 4th(perhaps) round? and focus on another stud(again, on paper)? Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Can't we get a similar(at least on paper) player in Arthur Jones, DT from SU, in the 4th(perhaps) round? and focus on another stud(again, on paper)? Jones wasn't as good at collapsing the pocket as McCoy and Brian Price. One disruptive later-on guy is Lamarr Houston, but I expected more from him in the Texas-Alabama game. Vince Oghobaase and Geno Atkins could come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. OTM Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I love hearing everyone's free agent ideas (let's get Merriman, Kolb, Wilfork, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders ) However, let's be realistic with free agent thoughts and draft picks. No, we aren't getting Russell Okung or Suh in less we trade up. I'm generally opposed to trading down, but I think most of are in agreeance that the best DT's, OT, and QB will probably be off the board at #9. (Suh, Gerald McCoy, Okung, Clausen/Bradford). The only realistic pick worth the #9 slot is McClain. This is who we should take. However, here is a realistic scenario of the Bills getting some good value by trading down. 1. Trade pick #9 (Draft Value 1,350) to the 49er's for pick #17 (Draft Value 950). The 49er's send their second round pick #49 (Draft Value 410) in the exchange. Bills draft picks are valued now at 1,360 and 49er's at 1,350. 2. The Bills then have picks #17, #41, #48. Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Pick #41 Sergio Kindle (OLB 3-4) The Bills will need another linebacker with a switch to a 3-4. Mock Drafts rate Kindle between #'s 38-50. Pick #49 Selvish Capers (LT) The Bills get a solid LT in the mid second round without having to dish out millions of dollars to a top 10 pick on the disputed second best LT in the draft behind Okung. The Bills then can address a QB (LeFevour in round #3) and depth in rounds 4-7. 3. The 49er's with picks #9 and #13 can focus on their most pressing needs QB (Clausen?), OT (Baluga, Williams, or Campbell, or Davis), or they can go with a CB/S, another need. This is a realistic way of the Bills building through the draft based on biggest needs. And, it makes sense for both the Bills and the 49er's as a likely and reasonable trade partner. The 49ers took Nate Davis in last year's draft. I don't see them going QB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Everyone talks about Realistic drafts but automatically calling and drafting us for 3-4 isnt realistic. We are a 4-3 team unless our new DC calls for it soo draft appropriately if you want it "realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I love hearing everyone's free agent ideas (let's get Merriman, Kolb, Wilfork, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders ) However, let's be realistic with free agent thoughts and draft picks. No, we aren't getting Russell Okung or Suh in less we trade up. I'm generally opposed to trading down, but I think most of are in agreeance that the best DT's, OT, and QB will probably be off the board at #9. (Suh, Gerald McCoy, Okung, Clausen/Bradford). The only realistic pick worth the #9 slot is McClain. This is who we should take. However, here is a realistic scenario of the Bills getting some good value by trading down. 1. Trade pick #9 (Draft Value 1,350) to the 49er's for pick #17 (Draft Value 950). The 49er's send their second round pick #49 (Draft Value 410) in the exchange. Bills draft picks are valued now at 1,360 and 49er's at 1,350. 2. The Bills then have picks #17, #41, #48. Pick #17 Terrence Cody (DT) An ideal pick, great value, reasonable to assume he will be around at #17 and the perfect start to a 3-4 switch. Pick #41 Sergio Kindle (OLB 3-4) The Bills will need another linebacker with a switch to a 3-4. Mock Drafts rate Kindle between #'s 38-50. Pick #49 Selvish Capers (LT) The Bills get a solid LT in the mid second round without having to dish out millions of dollars to a top 10 pick on the disputed second best LT in the draft behind Okung. The Bills then can address a QB (LeFevour in round #3) and depth in rounds 4-7. 3. The 49er's with picks #9 and #13 can focus on their most pressing needs QB (Clausen?), OT (Baluga, Williams, or Campbell, or Davis), or they can go with a CB/S, another need. This is a realistic way of the Bills building through the draft based on biggest needs. And, it makes sense for both the Bills and the 49er's as a likely and reasonable trade partner. I like the idea of trading down to build a team. Parcells does a good job of that. I don't see the 49ers trading down. I like Cody in the middle but we still have a glaring weakness at mlb and olb. Though Poz made some picks at the end of last season he is a huge liability and doesn't possess the power needed to intimidate. I would like to see McClain in the middle. We need 2 LB's from the draft. Capers is a decent 2nd round choice. Realistically I think trading down may be more sensible with our 2nd round pick as opposed to our 1st or have more than one trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 This is our guy (if we draft a QB): 71 Tony Pike - currently being picked #69, by OAK AD will probably draft a punter in this slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I really like your scenario, however I'd like to grab Spikes with one of our 2nds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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