Magox Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I found this to be interesting. Republicans won a squeaker in Long Island, New York's Nassau County this week. And according to the loser, Democratic County Executive Tom Suozzi, it should serve as a warning to politicians nationwide, especially those in high-tax states. "People are angry about property taxes, and they held the county executive accountable," said Mr. Suozzi after conceding to Ed Mangano, a little-known local Republican legislator. "You'd better be careful, because you're all at risk." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 About time. Dems losing Nassau and Westchester 1 year after the Dem sweep should be a wake-up call. As for Reps, I hope they do not read too much into the wins; if they don't cut taxes, they'll be out too. I think a lot of incumbants will be out the door in 2010. People don't want to deal with higher taxes. If Congress raises, look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 About time. Dems losing Nassau and Westchester 1 year after the Dem sweep should be a wake-up call. As for Reps, I hope they do not read too much into the wins; if they don't cut taxes, they'll be out too. I think a lot of incumbants will be out the door in 2010. People don't want to deal with higher taxes. If Congress raises, look out. Cutting taxes isn't going to get it done if they don't seriously reign in spending. Neither Republicans or Democrats have the stones to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Cutting taxes isn't going to get it done if they don't seriously reign in spending. Neither Republicans or Democrats have the stones to do that. Absolutely right. And I'm not saying this proposal that passed is perfect, but at least its a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Absolutely right. And I'm not saying this proposal that passed is perfect, but at least its a start. If they really wanted to change it, they'd get rid of the damn pension system all together. People should save for their own damn retirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 If they really wanted to change it, they'd get rid of the damn pension system all together. People should save for their own damn retirements. People in this country aren't smart enough for that....Maybe you are, but the majority is very stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 People in this country aren't smart enough for that....Maybe you are, but the majority is very stupid Looking at who we elect to public office (and re-elect) supports your premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 People in this country aren't smart enough for that....Maybe you are, but the majority is very stupid Government workers are smart enough to work 16 hour days two years before their retirement-thats all they need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 If they really wanted to change it, they'd get rid of the damn pension system all together. People should save for their own damn retirements. No arguments from me. Let em all go to defined contribution plans (401ks) rather than defined benefit plans like pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 People in this country aren't smart enough for that....Maybe you are, but the majority is very stupid So let me get this straight, because people are stupid I have to pay for their retirement? But I agree with what Darin said. If we were to do away with the defined benefit plan for all government employees and went strictly with defined contribution like most of us have we'd solve the deficit problem in one generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 So let me get this straight, because people are stupid I have to pay for their retirement? You should know by now, Adam doesn't ever offer anything substantive to the conversation or takes a stand on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 So let me get this straight, because people are stupid I have to pay for their retirement? But I agree with what Darin said. If we were to do away with the defined benefit plan for all government employees and went strictly with defined contribution like most of us have we'd solve the deficit problem in one generation. Yes- you will have to pay for their retirement. Should you have to? Absolutely not! But, what you are saying from Darin makes a lot of sense. If the educational system was fixed, a lot of these problems might just go away, but then our politicians would lose a lot of power, so neither side wants that You should know by now, Adam doesn't ever offer anything substantive to the conversation or takes a stand on anything. Lets not get cranky just because you took something completely the wrong way........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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