PromoTheRobot Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 100% chance WGR gives him grief for not being able to swim. You can say that again. Jerry "Pipeline To The Fans" Sullivan on the Howard Simon show today that even if Fewell won all of his games he should not be coach. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 IF he wins out...then he complicates things. Right now all he's done is won a single game. So true. Think about it, guys. It is not unusual for an interim coach to add a spark to their team and steal a game or two. In addition, some players who were coasting suddenly realize there's going to be a purge after the season and they had better play much better if they want to keep their job. The records show that interim coaches do surprisingly well for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I see there are still a lot of folks infatuated with Shanahan. To remind everyone, he failed miserably as the de facto GM in Denver. From Yahoo: "The point is that the '97 and '98 Shanahan magic might not be there anymore. In fact, in the ten years he coached since then, he's won in the playoffs just once. Now, I'm not one of those people who believe Shanahan only won because he had John Elway under center, but I do happen to believe that the ten years since then matter, too. When we last left Mike Shanahan, he'd lost half of his last 48 games, and missed the playoffs three straight years. He had made some brutal personnel decisions, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. He had even lost his magical ability to make a 1,000-yard runner out of anyone with two legs." Shanahan was a disaster as a de facto GM. Most peculiar was his fixation with former Cleveland Browns defensive linemen. From ESPN.com and Len Pasquarelli: "On Monday, the Broncos released defensive end Courtney Brown, the top prospect taken in the 2000 draft, but also one of the most star-crossed players in recent NFL history in his tenures with Denver and Cleveland. And less than 24 hours later, apparently because they had dipped below their self-imposed quota of onetime Cleveland front four players on the roster, the Broncos signed former Browns tackle and unrestricted free agent Alvin McKinley to a four-year, $8 million contract. It extended the Broncos' inexplicable fixation with former Cleveland defensive linemen, as McKinley, amazingly, became the eighth one acquired by Denver since 2005. The Browns-to-Broncos roll call: Denver traded for end Ebenezer Ekuban and tackles Gerard Warren and Michael Myers, all in 2005. Signed as free agents were Brown (2005) and Kenard Lang (2006) and tackles McKinley (2007) and Corey Jackson (2005). The Broncos also claimed end Amon Gordon on waivers (2006)." Shanahan also overspent for players and the payroll was burgeoning. This is another one of the reasons that Bowlen fired him. Those who would want him to run football operations here are either a bit strange or misinformed, IMO. Thank goodness someone else is looking past this inexplicable love feast with shanahan everyone is having. We need a GM of the first order and the GM should find the next coach for the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 So true. Think about it, guys. It is not unusual for an interim coach to add a spark to their team and steal a game or two. In addition, some players who were coasting suddenly realize there's going to be a purge after the season and they had better play much better if they want to keep their job. The records show that interim coaches do surprisingly well for a few games. Exactly. The Dolphins are not some stellar team. Neither are the Jets. They are teams w/ talents (both more talented than the Bills), but both are going to have to put together strong finishes to sniff the playoffs. Both teams have gaping holes at the QB position and have made critical mistakes to lose games. I expect Fewell to have his guys fight day in and day out and I think his energy will translate into some hard fought games. But come on. 1 win!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I see there are still a lot of folks infatuated with Shanahan. To remind everyone, he failed miserably as the de facto GM in Denver. From Yahoo: "The point is that the '97 and '98 Shanahan magic might not be there anymore. In fact, in the ten years he coached since then, he's won in the playoffs just once. Now, I'm not one of those people who believe Shanahan only won because he had John Elway under center, but I do happen to believe that the ten years since then matter, too. When we last left Mike Shanahan, he'd lost half of his last 48 games, and missed the playoffs three straight years. He had made some brutal personnel decisions, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. He had even lost his magical ability to make a 1,000-yard runner out of anyone with two legs." Shanahan was a disaster as a de facto GM. Most peculiar was his fixation with former Cleveland Browns defensive linemen. From ESPN.com and Len Pasquarelli: "On Monday, the Broncos released defensive end Courtney Brown, the top prospect taken in the 2000 draft, but also one of the most star-crossed players in recent NFL history in his tenures with Denver and Cleveland. And less than 24 hours later, apparently because they had dipped below their self-imposed quota of onetime Cleveland front four players on the roster, the Broncos signed former Browns tackle and unrestricted free agent Alvin McKinley to a four-year, $8 million contract. It extended the Broncos' inexplicable fixation with former Cleveland defensive linemen, as McKinley, amazingly, became the eighth one acquired by Denver since 2005. The Browns-to-Broncos roll call: Denver traded for end Ebenezer Ekuban and tackles Gerard Warren and Michael Myers, all in 2005. Signed as free agents were Brown (2005) and Kenard Lang (2006) and tackles McKinley (2007) and Corey Jackson (2005). The Broncos also claimed end Amon Gordon on waivers (2006)." Shanahan also overspent for players and the payroll was burgeoning. This is another one of the reasons that Bowlen fired him. Those who would want him to run football operations here are either a bit strange or misinformed, IMO. I see Shanahan as a guy who's perhaps too tightly wound for my liking. I don't want to hire someone who isn't rejuvenated and who's not ready to give it 100% effort with all the time and enthusiasm that entails. I fear that Shanahan is a spent coach who's just looking to save face with a big payday regardless of were he ends up. How hungry is Mike Shanahan and does he take the Buffalo job for the right reasons? Obviously he's a 100% better coach than Jauron, but do we really want another tightly wound head coach who hasn't won a playoff game in the past decade? I truly hope that Fewell takes the reigns and gets the Bills to win 4 or 5 of their remaining games solidifying his job as the head coach. I love Perry's coaching style and attitude. 180 degree difference to Dick Jauron. These last 5 games will be a good indicator of what to do in terms of the HC job. I'm just so thankful that it's fun to watch Bills games again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I truly hope that Fewell takes the reigns and gets the Bills to win 4 or 5 of their remaining games solidifying his job as the head coach. I love Perry's coaching style and attitude. 180 degree difference to Dick Jauron. These last 5 games will be a good indicator of what to do in terms of the HC job. I'm just so thankful that it's fun to watch Bills games again. Remaining schedule. Jets (home-ish) Chiefs Pats (Home) Falcons Colts (Home...in what will be a meaningless game for Indy) He won't win 4-5 games. He might win 2 with an outside shot at 3 if the Colts play scrubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Remaining schedule. Jets (home-ish) Chiefs Pats (Home) Falcons Colts (Home...in what will be a meaningless game for Indy) He won't win 4-5 games. He might win 2 with an outside shot at 3 if the Colts play scrubs. Bills don't play well against good QBs. So I give them a shot at Chiefs and Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Remaining schedule. Jets (home-ish) Chiefs Pats (Home) Falcons Colts (Home...in what will be a meaningless game for Indy) He won't win 4-5 games. He might win 2 with an outside shot at 3 if the Colts play scrubs. I can see this team beating the Jets and Chiefs leading up to Fewell's make or break audition against the Pats. Now I'm not making any bold predictions considering how we haven't beat them since forever, but the game is at home and they'd have a good head of steam going and the players would know winning that game would cement Perry as the top Bill's head coaching candidate going into the last two games. But I don't want to get too excited here off of one win, I'm just saying I could see it unfolding that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrudginglyPessimistic Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I can see this team beating the Jets and Chiefs leading up to Fewell's make or break audition against the Pats. Now I'm not making any bold predictions considering how we haven't beat them since forever, but the game is at home and they'd have a good head of steam going and the players would know winning that game would cement Perry as the top Bill's head coaching candidate going into the last two games. But I don't want to get too excited here off of one win, I'm just saying I could see it unfolding that way. Pats v. Saints showed the Pats DB vulnerability due to injury. This will be the Bills real tryout for Fitzy and TOs tryout for FA for the NFL. Any given Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I can see this team beating the Jets and Chiefs leading up to Fewell's make or break audition against the Pats. Now I'm not making any bold predictions considering how we haven't beat them since forever, but the game is at home and they'd have a good head of steam going and the players would know winning that game would cement Perry as the top Bill's head coaching candidate going into the last two games. But I don't want to get too excited here off of one win, I'm just saying I could see it unfolding that way. I think this pretty much says it all. Probably the #1 quality in a head coach, for me, is who takes care of the division first. If Fewell can beat the Dolphins (check), the Jets (coming up), and the Pats* (the big test) -- especially with this crippled team -- then I would fully support giving him a shot at the permanent head coaching spot. But you're right, if he can lead them past the Jets and then the Chiefs, even though that wouldn't exactly be a huge accomplishment overall, it would be setting up a huge playoff-atmosphere game for this team. Knocking off the Pats* at that point would get everybody fired up, I guarantee that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300yrds Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Fewell seems to be an easy to like guy who has come up throught he ranks, and he at least for a couple of weeks seems to be living out his dream, and I think that Buffalo feels for that, and that is why so many of us may be pulling for him. Is he the next great coach? Maybe, maybe not, who knows. I know I wouldnt mind him as HC as long as we brought in a proven OC, DC, and strength and conditioning coach. Oh yeah and none of this matters untill we bring in a proven GM. Forget Shannahan, that is a mistake to fulfill both roles, without Elway he has been mediocre(although mediocre is better than what we have had this decade.) I am just not excited about Shanahan at all. What I could get excited about is say a Holmgren, Shottenheimer, or Casserle as GM, Weiss as OC, and somebody like Nolan, Capers, Bates or even zimmer as DC. After that Fewell can stay as HC for all I care. That is a staff that I can get excited about. Maybe I can ask Santa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBoston Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Keep him and surround him with a front office that can find him talent to play with...and an offensive staff that can match up with his defensive staff... Bingo. Now that Dr. Death has been removed, the biggest problem is the front office. The percentage of Super Bowl winning coaches who win it again with a different team is ZERO. It's never been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 how can any of us be in a position to evalaute a coach with 2 NFL games experience beating the dolphins without their #1 RB ???? seriously? he might turn out to be the next coaching god but he might be a flash in the pan, no one to tell yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 Some of you are too quick to dismiss Fewell. Look at the coaches who are tearing up the NFL right now: Payton, Childress, Tomlin, Caldwell. All of these guys were asst coaches or coordinators who worked their way up the chain, like Fewell. In fact do you realize that of the 32 NFL head coaches, only 5 have prior NFL head coaching experience? (Mora-SEA, Coughlin-NYG, Phillips-DAL, Turner-SD, Bellicheat-NE) If hiring an experienced coach was such a great idea you'd think more teams would do it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC882 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Even if Fewell wins out, how are a few wins going to POSSIBLY match up again men who are going to showcase resumes with fifteen year long track records of success and Super Bowl Rings??!!?? Take Fewell. Get a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC882 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Bingo. Now that Dr. Death has been removed, the biggest problem is the front office. The percentage of Super Bowl winning coaches who win it again with a different team is ZERO. It's never been done. What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebe's Kid Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Although I will not evaluate if PF should be our next HC without a little longer sample, I love this guy. I just like the spark he provides, and leaadership. I would love it if Mr. Wilson could spend $10 mil on OC, DC, GM, and maybe a FA. I don't think it is unrealistic that we could get away with this, and be way farther ahead than if we brought Shanny in. When Richard had finally worn out his welcome, all I wanted was the biggest name on the market. I am glad we did it when we did and didn't wait until the end of the season. I think we are getting a little lesson here, as well as having time to contemplate before the check gets written... Honestly, I have no clue which is the right move right now. I am falling less and less in love with the idea of Shanahan, whom I was never high on to begin with, everyday. I like Cowher, and I liked Gruden, although his exit in Tampa is a little bit of a question mark. If I had to make a decision, assuming the season is over, it would be Cowher or Perry. The reason is Perry can't really argue when we bring in a GM, which I feel is necessary, no GM/HC, please. He also doesn't really need to be consulted as far as OC/DC go. He just needs to be thankful he is given a shot. Interesting... Isn't great that there is something fun to talk about as a Bills' fan? The cloud has been lifted, we have nowhere to go but up (fingers-crossed.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think we should hire hire Matt Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think we should hire hire Matt Millen. I've heard of him. He's on TV now. He must be good. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I've heard of him. He's on TV now. He must be good. PTR Might as well anoint us as the Buffalo Jills while you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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