Jerry Jabber

And for every Losman, there's a Holcomb. For every Edwards, there's a Fitzpatrick. For every Fitzpatrick, there's a Manuel. Or maybe it's just the Bills dumb luck! I hate to say it, but you're probably right!

The Bills have been developing a QB since 1997.

If the Bills were tanking all of this time, they would have been finishing 2-14 or 3-13 vice 6-10 or 7-9 and would have been drafting in the Top 5 every year.

Or Cam Newton or Peyton Manning

Still avoiding the question Captain...

If they didn't "tank" then they got lucky to get Luck. What's your bright ideas on getting a franchise QB? QB fairy? QB Claus?

I remember how that season went Captain Obvious. I was using it as an example of how the Colts went from being a consistent playoff contender, to having the worst record the following year when Manning got hurt. But apparently, I had to fully describe in detail why the Colts were as bad as they were that year in order for you to get the point. I'm sorry that you're that dense and you need someone to fully explain things to you. I get it, you're totally against the tanking idea. We'll, I'm tired of being a bottom feeder, getting beat twice a year by the Patriots and seeing other teams in the playoffs year after year while the Bills are on the golf course. If you don't feel that you need to draft in the Top 3 to get a franchise QB, then good on you Captain. Maybe the Bills will get lucky enough in finding a teams backup or reaching for a QB in the draft and that QB will turn into the QB we've been looking for since January 1997 (guess what, that strategy hasn't worked so far!!)

So, you keep ranting about "who," but when I ask you what your ideas are you come back with a childish answer. Have a nice day troll!

Look for the Bills had as their GM's when they finished 3-13, 5-11 and 4-12, Tom Donahoe and Boss Hogg, excuse me, Buddy Nix. Donahoe drafted Mike Williams when the Bills finished at 3-13 (colossal bust), traded up to get Losman and gave up the following years 1st round pick to Dallas (which could have been used to draft Aaron Rodgers) and Boss Hogg drafted Marcel Dareus when the Bills finished 4-12. The Class of 83' was a deep QB draft, not all drafts are like that. Montana was a 3rd round pick and so was Russell Wilson, but that doesn't mean all QB's taken in the third round turn out to be Superbowl winning QB's, sometimes luck is involved. Sometimes, players fall in the draft for whatever reasons and that player turns out to be a dominant player, while other teams passed on him in the draft. Karlos Williams is our latest example of that. Teams passed on Gronkowski because of his previous injuries. So, what are your bright ideas on getting a franchise QB that will turn the Bills into the AFC East champs?

They went from making the playoffs every year with Manning to finishing 2-14 and drafting Luck. Besides that, what the hell does Jamarcus Russell have to do with anything?

Do we know which QB's will be available in the 2018 draft yet? I know it's a different sport, but the Sabres tanked to have a shot at two generational players, Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel, by which they took Jack Eichel. If that situation presents itself for the Bills say in the 2018 or 2019 draft, you mean to tell me it wouldn't be a smart move to tank the season before so the Bills can draft that guy, vice giving up multiple first round picks to get that QB?

Ownership, management and coaches would all have to buy in to the idea. While it sucks to purposely lose for a season or two, it would reap long term success. We all have to accept the fact that the Bills will never win the division without a real franchise QB as long as Brady is the Patriots QB. While a lot of people on here hate the idea of losing on purpose, look at our draft status with finishing between 6-10 and 7-9 all these years. The Bills drafted mainly between 8 - 13, and those picks were used on RB's, CB's etc... To get an elite QB, you need to be able to draft in the Top 3. Look at the Panthers and how well they are doing now with Cam Newton, they're 13-0. Fans are kidding themselves to think that mediocre QB's can take them to the Superbowl, let alone the playoffs. After 16 years of missing the playoffs, I want to see the Bills not only go back to the playoffs, but win the Superbowl. If the Bills keep the status quo of looking for other teams castoffs or reaching for QB's in the draft (such as Losman and Manuel), then this playoff drought will continue. We need to see Taylor lead the team from behind and also not throw 40 yards down the field on 3rd and 2. I'm losing my faith in Wrecks Ryan and feel he's nothing more than a used car salesman.

We already know Taylor is starting in 2016, so I doubt they will draft in the Top 10 in the 2017 draft. So if Taylor doesn't pan out next year, and if there is a QB of the caliber of Newton, Luck, P. Manning, etc.. in the 2018 draft, then the Bills should tank the 2017 season to be able to draft in the Top 5 to draft that QB. Otherwise, like Doug Whaley said, the Bills are in QB purgatory.

While they suck this year, they were in the AFC Championship game last year. You mean to tell me you wouldn't love to see the Bills in that position (winning playoff games and having a shot at the Superbowl)? The same could have been said for the Bills last year and this year. The Bills need a great QB to topple the Patriots and the guys that have been playing QB for the Bills over the past 14 years have not been the answer, which is why Brady has a ridiculous win/loss record against us.

Since you mentioned Andrew Luck, do you remember how the Colts got him? By tanking the season before, that's how. Thanks!

The Raiders aren't in the playoffs and the Vikings look decent, but not world beaters.

So, the Bills should just keep going after sub-par QB's which can only take the team between 6-10 and 9-7? Yeah, that's great logic. It hasn't worked for 16 years now, so it's suddenly going to work now? The only way the Bills are going to get a Top 10 QB is being able to draft high (most likely Top 3). So, either the Bills give up multiple first round picks to do it, tank so they don't have to give up those picks, or keep with the status quo and hope scrubs like Fitz, Losman, Edwards, Manuel, etc will lead us to the playoffs...

I saw that post. The OP was discussing "tanking" for the rest of this season, while I was referring to "tanking" in the 2017 season or later if Taylor does not work out. As I said in my original post, the Bills will never be AFC East champs until they have a real franchise QB. If Taylor is not the franchise guy, then just keep adding more years to the Patriots dominance of the division.

Before the Pegula's bought the Bills, the Bills averaged 6-10 over the past 14 years. Now, it appears the Bills will average 8-8 (assuming they win two out of their last three games) over the past two years. So, will it take another twelve years for the Bills to get to 10-6?

It's already too late for 2016, plus Whaley already stated Taylor is going to be the starter in 2016, so if the Bills were to tank, that possibility wouldn't happen until the 2017 season. Quick question, what does "IN" mean?

When the Pegula’s bought the Sabres back in 2011, they thought the Sabres would be able to win the Stanley Cup within three years, but that didn’t come to fruition as they realized they had did not have the right roster and management to win the cup, so they gutted the team, and purposely tanked for two years in order to get two great players in the draft which would change their franchise [Reinhart and Eichel]. Right now, the Bills appear to be in the same boat as the Sabres were in 2011, a team that has some talent, but is not good enough to win a championship. I know the Bills plan on giving Taylor another year to see if he can be the franchise QB that the Bills have been looking for since Kelly retired nearly twenty years ago, but what if we’ve seen the best of Taylor? We know that’s not good enough to win a Superbowl, let alone go to the playoffs. With finishing between 6-10 and 9-7 lately, that is not a good position to be in to draft a franchise QB. In order for the Bills to trade up in the top 5 (most likely top 3), they would have to give up multiple first round picks (Washington gave up three first round picks to the Rams for RGIII). Instead of giving up multiple first round picks which could set the franchise back for many years, would it be a better idea to tank for a season or two to get high draft picks in order to get their franchise QB? Yes, it would suck to have to extend the playoff drought even longer as 16 years without the playoffs has been brutal, but let’s face facts, the Bills will not dethrone the Patriots as the AFC East champs until they get a real franchise QB.

Hahaha!!! Start EJ?! Thanks for the laugh! After he lost the Jaguars game, I never want to see EJ start another Bills game...ever!!!

Fire Rex, Thurman and Crossman, promote Roman to HC and bring back Schwartz as the DC.

"Well get ready, cause we're going..." Yeah right Rex!! 16 years in a row pal!!

"Well get ready, we're going..." Yeah right!!! 16 years now and still no playoffs!!