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The issue goes beyond the assigning of sacks, it basicly is the issue for all stats. Interceptions are the same; a quarterback could be throwing what looks like a awfull pass that gets intercepted. Yet it could have been a timed ball that was spot on but the intended receiver failed to run the correct route or misunderstood the play. Yet the quarterback gets credited an interception. A quarterback his stats could look awesome throwing nothing more then 5 yard passes if he has receivers that consistently add 20 yards after the catch, yet in reality he could be terrible. The nature of measurables in combination with the human factor creates a natural diviation, especially in a complex team sport like American Football which is basicly a high speed, aggressive version of chess. If you use stats understanding that there is always a deviation in play it doesn't matter. Also the higher the stat the less deviation it will contain and therefor the more telling the number will be. Shouldn't the stats be kept for that reason alone? In the case of american football stats also provide entertainment value and are a tool for the spectator to help follow and understand the depth of the game. Looking at the sack stat; sacks are creditted towards a defender or defenders making the sack, however they wouldn't be able to make them if it weren't for the play of their teammates. Yet the sack as a stat caused by a defender is an official stat. If you turn it around then the situation is exactly the same for offensive linemen compared to defensive line man. So there is no reason not to keep the sacks allowed stat on offensive linemen. There is an argument not to keep the stat and that is that offensive linemen really are a team within the team, if that team breaks somewhere the whole team is in trouble. In my humble opinion that argument is a bit overrated though, it may be the case for the offensive line players in the form of a tandem but if you turn it around on the defensive line they won't be making sacks either if the rest of the d-line are failing their assignments. My conclusion/opinion; make the sacks allow stat by offensive linemen official.

No way Greenbay would have traded away, so that meant having to trade up 3 spots in the top 10. That is going to cost you bigtime (see what the Jets had to give up to trade up to 5). The cost issue versus the needs of the Bills is where the problem is/was. It would have meant trying to rebuild the o-line with 3rd round picks it's best. Did Raji look great? He sure did. Should we have taken him at 11 if he would have been there? For sure! Would trading up for him have been an option? No.

Given the ownage pressure Raji applied he would have fixed the tampa 2 scheme for sure, however he went at 9 we drafted at 11. Trading up would have cost us Wood and Levitire, which would have meant having no o-line at all.

I'm starting to think the Patriots* cut Stupar with the intention of us picking him up and thus gaining an inside spy!

It looked like Hamdan was trying to protect the ball a bit too much on a couple of those throws (notice how he all delivered them a bit short, away from defenders), in the end he did drive the team down the field twice for 2 TD's. Also he was the only one from our QB's that didn't turn the ball over.

I wonder how they are going to justify cutting Stupar...

At least the forum will be in overdrive mode this week, plenty of whining, crying and complaing to discuss...

Whoohoo nice one Reggie!!!

Mark Gaughan gave us a 1 in 10 chance in todays chat...

This is not on Trent imho, this is all on a failing o-line.

lmao too true

Lol the guy has a Sanyo TV.... Not a very good advertising for Sanyo...

Never realized Turkey isnt on CET

bleh thats the same as the justin.tv webcam at crappy tv feed... :/ guess it'll have to do...

Lol wth is that a webcam pointed at a guys television?

Yet is he only getting 3rd team reps...

QB(3) - Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Gibran Hamdan RB(3) - Fred Jackson, Dominic Rhodes, Xavier Omon TE(3) - Derek Fine, Derek Schouman, Shawn Nelson WR(7) - Lee Evans, Terrell Owens, Josh Reed, Steve Johnson, Roscoe Parrish, Justin Jenkins, James Hardy OG(3) - Eric Wood, Adam Levitre, Kirk Cambers, (Seth McKinney) OT(3) - Langston Walker, Brad Butler, Demetrius Bell, (Kirk Chambers), (Adam Levitre) OC(2) - Geoff Hangartner, Seth McKinney, (Eric Wood) Offense = 24 DE(5) - Aaron Schobel, Chris Kelsay, Ryan Denney, Aaron Maybin, Chris Ellis DT(4) - Marcus Stroud, Kyle Williams, John McCargo, Spencer Johnson OLB(4) - Kawika Mitchell, Keith Ellison, Nic Harris, Alvin Bowen MLB(3) - Paul Pozluszny, Pat Thomas, Marcus Buggs CB(5) - Terrence McGee, Leodis McKelvin, Reggie Corner, Ashton Youboty, Ellis Lankster SS/FS(5) - Donte Whitner, Bryan Scott, Jairus Byrd, John Wendling, George Wilson, (Nic Harris) Defense = 26 K/PK(1) - Rian Lindell P(1) - Brian Moorman LS(1) - Garrison Sanborn ST = 3 Suspended reserve: Marshawn Lynch Pup: Drayton Florence

They came up with that idea as a result of the huge problems they had with the grass in the Amsterdam Arena (the former Amsterdam Admirals and AJAX (soccer) stadium. They were putting new grassmats in the arena almost every 4 weeks in the first 2 years. The arena ended up developing a new grass spieces that would be able the sustain the semi indoor/outdoor conditions of the stadium (the grass wasnt getting enough air and light to stay healthy). Vitesse opted to have a moving grassfield to avoid the issues.

Jup... we should make this in a bet/quiz/poll kinda thing... I said 26/14 for 5 in the other thread. Realisticly could it be that the issue is contract duration, i.e. it was 2 weeks into camp before the slotting could be done, maybe the FO went for 6 years and is that what the dispute is about. A dispute at this point about financials just doesn't make sense.

That top 10 is results based isn't it? Sadly home field advantage kinda looses it's meaning given the results lately at home.

Sometimes America confuses the hell out of me, I mean you can kill a man by driving drunk and get away with 30 days in jail (Stallworth) or get 2 years for shooting yourself in your leg with an illegal gun that you could have gotten easily legaly.

His mother has a lot of accounts on here...

Sry for the confusion I read over the level part in warning level... Ooooooooooooooow, that's sweet, I'd been trying and trying to get that done. It worked in one go (allthough I ended up editing this anyway lol). Tyvm... /deepbow

I havent seen any UFL but if it could reach the level of WLAF/NFL Europe it will effect the NFL only in a positive way; basicly anyone good will end up in the NFL as it was with the WLAF/NFL Europe. There are two things why, 1. playing >>> practise squad and 2. the passionate players opt for UFL over any PS and passion yields results far better then being on a PS for paycheck reasons. Hmm again not worded brilliantly but cut me some slack for being non-native speaker heh.