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11 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Won’t work. Aiyuk’s current contract is over $14M. If you trade this year’s picks, then you can’t wait until after 6/1 to trade for him since that’s after the draft. Even if we did, we still don’t have the room since we need that $10M for the season. Also his next contract will still have a larger cap hit than we could absorb this season. He’s going to be a $25M a year player.
Why are you assuming we trade picks to move up in the draft? Those scenarios are independent of each other...it's not like both have to happen or neither can happen.
You clearly don't understand how easy it is to manipulate the cap if you actually believe that. Players making far more than he would be making have very low cap hits in year one to facilitate these type of things. Diggs trade opened up a ton of cap space each year over the next 3 seasons following this one, I believe more than $25 million a year each year.
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11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
lol…another 0% chance scenario. Every thread you’re giving away the farm to get every WR with no consideration for substantial amount of holes on this team.
There is absolutely no chance Beane is trading up TWICE in first 2 rounds for 2 WRs leaving us very little ammo to find the players we need in our secondary and DL as well. Not to mention another RB and OL depth we are likely going to use some of the day 3 picks on. And to do so in the deepest and richest WR draft in history is utterly insane.
To get into the mid teens, it’s probably going to cost us our first next year as well without having to gut some of our draft capital this year that we need. Everyone forgets the other team needs to want to move back to and be worth passing on the talent that will be there at OL, DL, CB, and even the WR for themselves.
Considering the Bills seem to do just fine with plugging literally anyone in the secondary and doing well within the scheme, should that be a big concern? Why waste high picks when their upside is limited within the scheme and the downside is even more limited with taking a 5th or 6th round pick? Basically the scheme has a lower ceiling but much higher floor than most in terms of individual DB value. We had literally a rag tag secondary in the heat game in Miami and held them to 219 yards of total offense with Ja'Marcus Ingram, a rookie street UFA forced into playing more than half the game after being called up from the PS due to injuries and missing 3/4 of the starters, including both safeties. This call for high DB picks is insane honestly and makes little sense. There is virtually NO UPSIDE to it.
DL...sure I could see some picks there, but let's be real. We tried loading up on D for multiple years and where has it gotten us? The D has failed badly ion every playoff loss, even with the #1 and #2 defenses in the NFL during the season. Why waste your time trying to load up on D again? Settle for a middle of the pack D that makes a few key plays a game and load up on offense. You aren't going to win with D, you may be able to win with O.
7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:Aiyuk would be a tremendous addition to the Bills, but we can’t fit his contract under the cap so that won’t work. I have zero interest in a big trade up for any WR outside the top 3. Too much capital for not much difference than can be had near 28.
Sure we could. $10 mil is freed up on the cap post June 1st due to the Tre White cut and if they are making that trade they would already likely have an extension in place and the first year of that could EASILY be made to fit within the cap and then take up what Diggs would have the following years with a little extra most likely in there.
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22 minutes ago, Watkins101 said:
Remember when Robert Foster had over 500 yards the final 8 games of the season, and everybody here was saying he was gonna be a 1/2? Kinda feels like that with all the hype Shakir is getting.
Not even close...
Shakir is a far better receiver than Foster ever was and can run the full complement of routes.
His rookie year, he led the NFL in percentage of routes he was open against man coverage and last year he led the NFL in yards/target for any WR with 45+ targets. Brandon Aiyuk was 2nd, and he led WR's in yards/target for any WR over 50 targets.
Shakir has a chance to make a huge leap this season, and if anything, I think people are underhyping it. He reminds me of a cross between Robert Woods and Andre Reed. He has shifty, RB type moves in the open field and has enough speed to pull away from people, even if it looks deceptive and like he isn't really moving that fast. Also has an ability to get low and bounce off tacklers(like that crazy TD against the Steelers in the playoffs).
10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:There are so many good receivers in this draft that it's likely a guy who may well have been a first rounder in other years (McConkey, who is really good and a great athlete) falls to the second. It's not about the number assigned to the round of the pick; it's about the talent level of the player. I think his point is a) take advantage of a great WR draft NOW and b) get Allen his elite skill players sooner rather than later.
Aiyuk is really good, as evidenced by finishing #2 in yards per target last season.
He finished #1 for any WR with 50+ targets. 2nd to Shakir in any WR with 45+ targets.
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25 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
Splitting hairs here, but Myles Garrett has 88.5 sacks in 7 seasons. Chris Jones also has claim to the top spot.
Chris Jones always seems to make the big play at the big time in the key games when the game hangs in the balance. Over and over and over again...pretty much had a huge play in every playoff game for as long as I can remember for the Chiefs.
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5 minutes ago, drummernut74 said:
Everything is cool except trading 2025 1st to get into the 2nd. Totally illogical when we are going to have to start replenishing on D
Forget about defense. If we are going to win it's on the back of the offense. How many times do you have to see the elite D fail in the playoffs to know no matter how good they make the D it's not going to matter? McD should be able to make due with what he gets on D.
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Jason Whitlock claims it was because he wanted to go somewhere with great strip clubs and to be closer to his brother so they could hang out:
Jason Whitlock: “I’m going to go back to what I said a year ago... Stefon Diggs has wanted out. He went to Buffalo to pair up with Josh Allen and to win a Superbowl, and now this will be his 10th NFL season and he don't care about winning at this point. What I told y'all a year ago was he’s like ‘man, I'm up in here in Buffalo, I came out here to win Super Bowls, we're not going to win a Super Bowl, it's cold up in here, the strip clubs aren't as good, let me get to a city where the strip clubs are off the charts, and me and my brother can hang out...’ I speculated that he wanted to get to Dallas. Well, he couldn't get to Dallas, but...
It's been years since I've been to a strip club, but I used to be a strip club connoisseur. Houston as a ‘strip club capital -- it's got to be in the top five in the country. I'd put Miami, Vegas, Portland, Houston, and Atlanta -- those are the top five. I'm telling you; people swear by Houston strip clubs, Stefon Diggs is very happy. It's not about winning at this point, it's not about stats, he's made his money, he's gotten the big contracts, he's good. He'll want to put up some numbers, but he don't really care. He's not about that life, and this ain't about winning.
I know that Houston is all-in. they got DeMeco Ryan, the great young coach, they got the great young quarterback, Joe Mixon, they got Danielle Hunter, who had a tremendous season last year... Houston is in win-now mode. Stefon Diggs looks good on paper, but I actually think he'll end up being the problem and could throw a banana peel for the Houston Texans, who have made a lot of moves trying to win right now.
He got 160 targets last year in Buffalo and the least amount of targets he ever got in four seasons in Buffalo was 154, so they fed him the ball. I’m not dismissing what CJ Stroud did as a rookie, but we've seen quarterbacks have great ‘years’. Josh Allen has had a great 3,4, 5-year run, but Diggs has got to be careful what he wishes for here. He may regret abandoning Josh Allen. Not the city of Buffalo and that cold weather, but Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a better quarterback than CJ Stroud and he's more proven than CJ Stroud. This could be one of those ‘Oh, the grass is greener! They got Joe Mixon! They got Danielle Hunter! DeMeco Ryans is a hot new coach! CJ Stroud is the best young quarterback in the league, and Sean McDermott and Josh Allen don’t know what they’re doing!’ The grass isn’t always greener. CJ Stroud could take a step back, and Josh Allen is NOT going to take a step back.
Diggs put pressure on Josh Allen and he’s going to eventually do the same thing to CJ Stroud. Right now, it’s in the honeymoon phase, but these diva wide receivers, particularly with Black quarterbacks, they can get out of pocket in terms of how entitled they feel. Think about the way Terrell Owens treated Donovan McNabb. They’re putting a controversial, polarizing, and outspoken receiver paired with their hot young quarterback, and it could blow up in their face.
I’m saying this in all seriousness and circling back to what I said in the beginning of this. The strip club culture in Houston is going to be a problem. I’m not even trying to be funny. Stefon Diggs, his brother Trevon, they like the social life, they like to get out there and party, and have a good time. They like ‘304s’ and there’s a lot of 304’s in Houston. There are some women in Houston celebrating right now ‘HEY, WE FOUND SOMEONE TO REPLACE JAMES HARDEN HERE IN HOUSTON! I called it a year ago. The guy wanted out of Buffalo, he wanted to be in a city where he could party, and he just moved to Houston.”
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10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
The reaction to Diggs' problems was pretty damn restrained until the trade.
If this had been NYC, now then we'd have seen probably not a 5 alarm fire but 3 or 4. Before the trade it was one or two alarms at most. It was a fire, but not a huge deal by any means.
Myself, if this Parsons thing gains legs, I'd expect bigger waves. It's a bigger market.
Are you kidding? The National Media had been creating story after story for 2 years, especially coming from Mike Florio and PFT who wrote every time Diggs tweeted something weird and said "Whoa! There is another tweet from Diggs wanting out".
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2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
Here’s the problem Parsons is legit the best defensive player in the league just approaching his prime there’s a pretty good chance the other guys go who said this before him as Jerry will find out.
Until you run the ball right at him like the Bills did and then he is exposed.
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Uh oh...Diggs part II...let's see if the National Media turn this into the blazing 5 alarm fire like they did the Diggs situation...
Report from 105.3 The Fan that he has heard from at least 4 "sources" inside the Cowboys locker room that if Parsons was traded there might not be as many people upset as you would think and that his act is wearing thin in the locker room there...
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I'd rather target a player in his prime still on a rookie contract or with a reasonable 2nd contract that is outperforming it and their current team doesn't want to pay him.
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Never a bad idea to take a flyer on a QB later in the draft, especially if you don't think you are going to have enough spots for picks on the regular roster.
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Beane already said none of those trades are ever "lined up" until the other team gets on the clock and sees who is available to them.
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It's never happening...a move into the teens for Brian Thomas Jr I could see...a move to 7? That's nonsense.
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#1 WR in yards/target with 50+ targets? Brandon Aiyuk.
#1 WR in yards/target with 40+ targets? Khalil Shakir.
His rookie season he led the NFL in being open against man coverage.
I think Shakir is going to have a huge season as well...
Over the last 10 games he had 535 yards receiving. If all he did was have that pace for 17 games, he would have over 900 yards...IMHO, I think he can be a 1000 yard receiver next year.
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21 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
I’m sorry but to say the Bills are going to be better on offense without Diggs and Davis is crazy too me. I like Kincaid and Shakir but you’re not going to convince me having Diggs on the field didn’t open up things for them. I think Kincaid will be a stud for sure…but Shakir let’s pump the breaks on that.
Josh without Diggs on the field is still an unknown. Just a lot of question marks on the offensive side of the ball right now to say they are going to be better.At this point it is...but we don't know what other moves Beane has up his sleeve or who we get in the draft so we can't say that isn't possible either.
Have to wait and see. As of right now definitely not. But this isn't the roster that will take the field in September either.
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I think a key point to remember is the Bills will be clearing over $10 million post June 1st once White's cap number hits and I would suspect Beane will actively be looking to use that cap space to add to the WR room, especially via trade. Would not be surprised to see Aiyuk a target. They could replace Diggs contract with a new one for him and be better off long term and possibly immediately as well.
Interesting note...
The #1 WR in yards/target in the NFL last year for any WR with more than 50 targets? Brandon Aiyuk...on 106 targets.
The #1 WR in yards/target in the NFL last year for any WR with more than 40 targets? Khalil Shakir. Aiyuk was 2nd.
Don't discount a massive jump this season from Shakir to a potential 1,000 yard WR. His rookie season he led the NFL in yards/separation per route run against man coverage. I think he is in line to become a major factor in this offense.
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That chart is old and doesn't properly value picks...many teams have moved on to ones using analytics that actually show how valuable those picks actually HAVE BEEN historically rather than using random numbers assigned to them 40 years ago that seemingly were made up out of thin air, which is why many trades don't seem all that aligned to that chart anymore.
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1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
Ooof. I mean it's the right thing to do.
I'm all for a trade up but I think we need to face that the Bills leverage is not great.
If the boathouse is stripped bare, we shouldn't go and get the 10th best receiver when the team can go back to the 33-38th range and get the 12th best receiver the youth movement can begin
There are probably 8 or 9 WRs this year that would be ahead of many WRs in the first half of the first round many years.
It's a very deep, very good class. I'd take WR at 1 and 2.
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Basically nothing of note.
14 minutes ago, richNjoisy said:I am having no problem hearing his replies. I am on the Bills app.
Doesn't work on twitter itself.
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And once again, the Bills fail by putting out a live feed that only lets you hear the questions being asked but goes dead while Beane is talking. Epic fails, this has happened countless times and they still don't fix it. Found it on WGR550 live
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3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:
Does anyone know what cap hit for next season is or is this it and next year we're clean of Diggs's contract.
There is no cap hit next year, it's all this year.
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So let me get this straight...
We got a 2nd round pick(the Vikings) and traded Diggs, a 4th rounder this year and a 5th rounder next year? AND just took a $31 million cap hit this year too?
Are you fvcking kidding me?? Where is the money coming from to do this?
Now we are like $25 million over the cap again.
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19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Yea people are curious
But it's gonna be a 3-4 year development at least if it did work
Not many teams have 4 years to develop a PS level guy
I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him but would ask him to TC
Jason Peters was too...he turned out pretty OK...
14 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:He has amazing feet - I think he could do it. The question is, will he have a better career playing in the European basketball league or maybe competing for a bench spot in the NBA (and being a bit of a journeyman) vs. practice squad NFL for several years before really getting paid.
I think a team would be interested enough to offer a pretty big signing bonus for a PS player...they count against the cap but there is no limit to what you can offer them. Some of those players get good sized bonuses.
interesting WR scenario posed by a friend
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Big Turk
How could they not afford him if they trade for him, then redo his contract and extend him and give him a $1 million base salary in year 1 of the deal? It's easily doable. The Bills need roughly $3 mil for draft picks, they have $3+ million available now plus $10+ mil coming free June 1st. That gives them about $13 million in cap space they could work with. Obviously they will need some for practice squad and signing players during the season due to injuries, etc but they don't need to worry about that until a week before the league year begins. At this point it's only the Top 51 players that count toward the cap.
And it's not like they couldn't move some money around or potentially cut someone else to free up the space if they wanted to do it.