
Big Turk
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Have they lost their mind for a declining receiver on the wrong side of 30 coming off a torn ACL?
That's absurd!
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On 3/22/2025 at 6:17 PM, GunnerBill said:
Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.
He was somewhat of a raw prospect who only played a few years of football and was a former basketball player.
IMHO, his ceiling is far higher than where he is now.
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Ty Johnson is a straight baller...every time he touches the ball something good happens.
And he has the best sliding catch game of any PLAYER in the NFL period which is pretty damn impressive for a running back, not even a receiver.
Some of those catches he has made are almost not believable.
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30+ years ago? C'mon...this is starting to just get ridiculous now.
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7 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
The OL, RB room, and TE situation are all good. And Josh is an elite talent who receives elite pay.
But Josh needs downfield weapons to throw to. We don't have a lot of money invested there and it shows.
And, yeah, Beane does overpay sometimes.
If Texas WR Matthew Golden is there when they pick, Beane better hit the draft button like we mash the F5 button waiting for impending Bills news...
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12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Bills did it (briefly) with Josh. Go yell at the Eagles for gifting Barkley another contract right after he signed the first one. THAT was dumb.
Watson's contract, at this point, is a pimple on the NFL's rump, as QB contracts quickly and steadily eclipsed it. Watson' average salary isn't even top 10 for QBs.
No, those contracts were nowhere near the level of the Browns who basically destroyed the market twice. Both the Bills and Eagles were within range of what would be considered to be fair based on the player and the previous contract high at their position. Browns literally took the market and obliterated it.
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Browns screwing the league over AGAIN by setting a ridiculously high market for a player. First they did it with Watson, then they did it again with Garrett. Owners probably would like to kick them out of the league again if they weren't such an easy W on their schedule.
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Coleman might be in the doghouse with Allen if he keeps ripping on his dinner parties 😂
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for what? Dude is on the wrong side of 30 and was a non-factor in too many games last year.
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55 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Because you’ll need a specialist for 3rd down.
And?
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9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
If you’re paying a RB top 5 money they will have to be a 300 touch RB. Maybe only Kamara is the exception.
Cook is 3rd in the NFL in yards per carry since he entered the NFL(min 300 carries) and 2nd in yards per reception(min 40 catches) for all RBs. Those are elite per touch numbers and I think justifiable for getting paid. What difference does it make if a guy has to have 80 more carries and 30 more receptions to get the same numbers? Effectively you are putting more tread on the tires and having more opportunities for injuries for worse production.
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4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Spent 3 2nd-3rd round picks on RBs to finally feel good about RB.
I don’t believe in spending a lot of assets on a RB but I’m evaluating the offense and personnel. Signing Cook makes sense.
But yes, I need him to be an every down RB moving forward.
Most teams don't use every down backs anymore. That's not how the game is played. It's not 1987 where every team has a player with 300+ carries.
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23 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:
Guess the RB based on the past two years' stats:
RB Rush Yds Rec Yds Total TDs
1 2,357 833 31
2 2,134 579 18
3 2,131 703 24
4 2,050 685 24
5 2,097 404 16
6 2,078 453 14
7 2,084 549 11
#1 is clearly a cut above the others. If you use 34 games (I didn't adjust for games missed) then #s 2-7 averaged between 74-83 total yards per game, so really no difference at all. There is wide disparity in TDs, and for most of them they varied a lot year-to-year.
The reveal:
#1 is Jahmyr Gibbs. He is great, imagine if he didn't split time with Montgomery.
Most people on this board probably can guess which one is James Cook in no more than 2 guesses. Knowing his 2024 TDs is a dead giveaway.
Cook is #3
Joe Mixon is #4
#2 is James Conner
#5 is Chuba Hubbard
#6 is Najee Harris
#7 is Tony Pollard
What's the point? Outside of Gibbs, these are not top tier RBs and their stats are essentially the same except for the TDs. Some have played with pedestrian QBs at best (Hubbard, Harris, Conner), Pollard split time in Dallas 1 year and played on an awful TEN team, which leaves Mixon and Cook.
Cook is a really nice player but he is not super distinguishable from the mid-level RBs in the league.
Think you forgot to look at YPC...Mixon averages 4.05 over that time, Cook averages 4.9(3rd in the NFL over his career in the last 3 years only to Devone Achane and Jahmyr Gibbs). Mixon gets a lot more carries to get less production. Also considering 2 year ago Cook was #6 in the NFL in scrimmage yards and averages 9.6 yards per reception which is 2nd in the NFL over that time for Running backs with at least 40 catches to Samaje Perine, a 3rd down receiving back, you made the mistake of looking at overall numbers without any context of how they achieved them.
Cook's lack of touches played a part in his "pedestrian numbers" as you would put it.
Essentially you are vastly underrating Cook. He is among the best in the NFL on a per touch basis.
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probably signs with 49ers or Seahawks and they trade Metcalf.
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4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Jalen Hurts signed a bigger contract than Josh, and the Eagles just did this. That is reality too.
And they have 2 WR's that average a combined $57 million a year in AJ Brown and Devonta Smith to boot...they breaking all the rules.
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maybe we will start seeing more short movies...
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19 minutes ago, Brand J said:
Once defenses started building to stop the pass and starting quality WRs became plentiful in the draft, I knew the value of RBs was due to increase. In NO WORLD was Justin Jefferson worth $35M/yr versus Saquon Barkley at $13M/yr, that was just ridiculous. And even more a slap in the face contractually considering Barkley just won OPOTY and was in the mix for NFL MVP.
It’s a passing league, so I get that a WR will have slightly more value to an offense (say if Barkley and Jefferson were on the same team), but the contracts for the two positions had long been out of whack. Cook was the second best player on our offense this year, more valuable than Shakir, but we all (rightly) thought that Shakir at $15M/yr was great value while Cook at the same amount was absurd. Thinking that way was absurd, but it was made absurd due to the low money given to RBs.
Next up the WR contracts should come back down to earth a bit. If I was a GM, I’m not paying the position more than $30M/yr, I don’t care who it is. They’re still well overvalued considering how defenses now play the pass and the number of good to great WRs that exist in the league.
Think we are seeing that the league trends towards whatever teams think they can take advantage of offensively. With the advent of smaller, faster players and shell coverages, it has swung back heavily towards running the ball for good teams.
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1 hour ago, QCity said:
That is not "resetting" the RB market 😂
That's destroying the RB market...Cook is likely as good as gone now since he can easily argue he is worth $15 mil if Barkley is worth $20+ mil
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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Now he can focus on his suit and fragrance businesses at least.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Says he wants to play one more year
Think that shows just how much easier it is to play D when your D-Line is getting after the QBs.
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On 2/27/2025 at 5:37 AM, GreggTX said:
Pretty self explainatory. Was it McDole? He played LE. Hanson? Schobel? Hanson? Mario? Hughes? I was thinking about and realized that outside of Bruce and Hughes, the cupboard has been pretty bare at RE. The LE and ROLB (Paup) positions have fated much better overall.
Bryce Paup and not close. He led the NFL in sacks, something even Bruce never did somehow, and won DPOY.
You want a monster run stuffing DT? I got you a monster DT
in The Stadium Wall
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That would be like me benching 100 lbs...which I could probably do close to that many reps of.