Joe Miner

Is your multiple personality disorder acting up again?

Agreed. This trade fills 2 needs (maybe 3) with 1 pick. That's a win win (win) situation. Although some may want to kill me, I wouldn't be upset if the Bills waited until round 3 or 4 and picked up Nelson as our #2 receiver. Here's a thought: Trade picks with Philly and get their 3rd. Draft someone like Balmer at 19 Draft a TE in the second (Davis/Rucker/Finely/...) Draft Nelson in the third Draft Pollack or Justice in the third with the Eagles 3rd ( )

Well, if the only way Philly is interested is if it's a straight up swap, then I wouldn't be opposed to letting it fall through. I'm not saying the Bills have to "win" the deal. I'm just saying they should make it a little more even. If a draft value was placed on Sheppard 6 months ago, would it have been a 2nd round pick? I'm not sure, but I doubt it. But I like most teams am willing to negotiate. So I'm confident that if the Bills want Sheppard, they can get it done without giving up too much.

You and me both Brutha.

Why do you think that people are only concerned about the *'s cheating in the SB against the Rams? Plus the fact that there are several ways of reading that statement. Kraft's statement could be true, but the *'s could still have cheated against the Rams. If Walsh has tape of them cheating in some preseason game, I wanna know that as well.

Blades of Steel. Wasn't that the one where you could get the guys to fight? If so, that one rocked.

Heh, my brother and I had to save up our own money (chores, no allowance), all $106 to buy our NES. Our dad said it was too expensive and we already had an Atari, so if we wanted it, get it ourselves. Geez, I think we were like 8 (me) and 10 (him) at the time. It was almost unbearable, all our friends had already had theirs for like a year before we got one. Best game? Dunno, that's tough. The Tecmo Bowl games were good. Double Dragon. Contra. Zelda. Castlevania...

Like the WR's, I'm not sure there's that much separation amongst the TE's in the draft. There are several to choose from each with their own strengths and weaknesses that could all likely have good careers in the NFL: F. Davis Bennett Rucker Keller Carlson Finley K. Davis I'm sure that one if not several of these will be available in the third when we pick.

I'm just really not sure he's worth a straight up swap. I'd really like to see a third, or at least a 4th from them as well. I personally wouldn't value Sheppard as a 2nd round pick, which is what a straight up swap says he is.

Err... ...Uhh....That's just what I heard?

Sheppard is good, but not that good IMO. He just turned 27, and in his 6 years in the league, he's only played 16 games once, and never started all 16. He hasn't played 15 games since 2004, which was arguably his best year with 56 tackles, and 5 interception, starting all 15 of the games he played in. Looking at numbers alone, McGee had a much better year last year than Sheppard did. Compare these two stat lines: G GS Tck Int PD 16 13 46 4 14 11 11 51 2 5 Now numbers don't tell the whole story I know, but one of those guys is Sheppard, and one isn't (not McGee either). Is Sheppard good? Yes. Would he help us out? Yes. Should we get taken in a deal to get him? No

Plus he's not gonna win Dancing With the Stars, so his value should drop even more. No one will want a loser who can't beat out a fat Broadway chick, and a tiny little figure skater.

Hmm...maybe even their third then? That would give Sheppard a value of about 185 which is the 17th pick in the third. That sounds fair to me. Our 1st (11) for their 1st (19), Sheppard, and their 3rd (80). They basically move up 8 spots in the first round for two thirds.

I think you could likely get a good TE prospect in the third, and perhaps bolster our D-line in the second instead. Lots of decent late 1st - 2nd round DT's available: Blamer, Sims, Laws, Moore.

I'm almost thinking that a 2nd is a little too high for him. What's it look like in value if the Iggles gave us their 1st, Sheppard, and their 4th for our first? What value does that place on Sheppard?

I must not have been paying attention to all of these discussions in the past. I'm not certain I understand how this is such a troubled subject.

Sorry, just got done arguing with the wife, so am still a little riled up.

I know two people that had lasik <5 years ago. Both are quite happy with the results and swear by it. That's all I know. If it were me (and it might be someday) I would certainly look into a reputable doctor, and not go with rock bottom prices.

Heh, not quite. Laud for being an acceptable member of society vs. laud for doing a job that protects the country. I don't think it's quite the same thing.

:lol: I have a tough time seeing the NFL as the model of Capitalism.

All I"m saying, is that if you want to laud Ray Lewis for something, praise him for things he's done to better his community and those around him. Don't praise him for not doing bad stuff anymore. I'm sure all of us grew up with people who are either constantly in and out of jail, or just really never grew up, and are now more of a burden on society than a help. Just because we didn't follow in their footsteps and continually choose to do illegal or otherwise questionable actions anymore, doesn't mean we should be praised. That's what's expected from us as member of society. Meeting expectations doesn't deserve praise. **Side Note** I read most of that SI article that was linked, and although he seems to now be of the woman beating/knife fighting persuasion any more, I can't really say that a lot of his attitudes/opinions are something that I would consider correct.

I'm not sure why his life had to be going in the wrong direction to begin with. How hard is it not to beat your girlfriend and get into knife fights? Yes, Ray Ray is a good person, because he says the right things on TV, and hasn't done those two things in 8 years or so. I don't see why any person is "lauded" for not doing anything wrong. That's one of the basic requirements for a person to be acceptable in a society. Turning your life around basically means that you stopped doing the crap that was wrong. Again, how hard is that?

I wasn't there, but my buddy told me he stabbed the guys like this... Boo to Ray Ray

Sept. 7 Seattle Seahawks 1 p.m. Loss Sept. 14 at Jacksonville Jaguars 1 p.m. Loss Sept. 21 Oakland Raiders 1 p.m. Win Sept. 28 at St. Louis Rams 4:05 p.m. Win Oct. 5 at Arizona Cardinals 4:15 p.m. Win Oct. 12 Bye Oct. 19 San Diego Chargers 1 p.m. Loss Oct. 26 at Miami Dolphins 1 p.m. Win Nov. 2 New York Jets 1 p.m. Win Nov. 9 at New England Patriots* 1 p.m. Loss Nov. 17 (Mon.) Cleveland Browns 8:30 p.m. Loss Nov. 23 at Kansas City Chiefs 1 p.m. Win Nov. 30 San Francisco 49ers 1 p.m. Win Dec. 7 Miami Dolphins (at Toronto) 4:05 p.m. Win Dec. 14 at New York Jets 1 p.m. Win Dec. 21 at Denver Broncos 4:05 p.m. Loss Dec. 28 New England Patriots* 1 p.m. Loss Looks like I'm guessing a 9-7 season.

Packers - Keller