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I'm not saying Simmons won't be good, but I'm trying to imagine another year of rooting for a team that struggles to score more than 17 points a game...our defense will be just fine without Simmons

Yes, please.

If we trade up in the first round for a defensive player, I'm going to need a new television...

Right, because there are so many other compelling threads on the board right now, like the seven "Would you trade our first round pick for [insert name of player you've heard of, who's not even on the market]" threads....

Of course!?

He might have gotten them to 8-8. BFD

1. Zero impact on Bills franchise. 2. Yep. Disaster. Two lost years. 3. Zero impact on Bills franchise. 4. Big problem. 5. We'll never know. 6. Still waiting for a solution to this one. None in sight.

So did the Ravens.

Because we want him, and other NFL teams are always looking for ways to help out the Bills? And this isn't even the stupidest thread that was started today. It's going to be a long offseason...

Your comment was that you didn't want Beane to shell out big money for any WR. My comment was addressed to that, not to Cooper specifically, although I would not have a problem if the Bills made a run at him.

Yeah, who wants to score more than 17 points per game anyway?

We’ve got a poll/thread on whether to trade our first round pick for some WR on the Carolina Panthers who’s not even on the market. It’s gonna be a long offseason.

I’m not advocating a trade up. Too many good receivers this year. I just wish Jeudy could somehow fall to us...like I said, pipe dream.

I’m sure he’s good. I’d definitely take him on day 3. And I’m pretty sure the Saints also had a Hall of Fame QB and a stable of receiving talent...

Agreed, but I just watched some film of Jerry Jeudy and now I’m salivating. Guy is going to be a WR1 from day one. I know he’s a pipe dream for the Bills, but he’s going to have a great career.

Not happening.

I didn’t say Garappolo can’t or won’t improve. I just said he’s not very good. And I do think he’s got a low ceiling. I think his lack of running ability hurts them and makes their offense much easier to defend, especially when the Niners are behind. I would much rather have Josh Allen, even though there are some things Jimmy G does better right now.

I agree. I also think Garappolo was exposed tonight. He’s unathletic and has at best an average arm—rich man’s Matt Barkley. I think Shanahan got them as far as he could with Jimmy G at the controls.

I’m not sure why, but I actually think our defense matches up better against the chiefs than the Niners’ defense does. If we add a few offensive weapons in the offseason and Josh takes a step forward, we can go a long way in 2020.

The very definition of “empty suit.”

I don't disagree that Rivers will probably get in; the question is, should he get in? This concept has been eroded over the years, but for me, the minimum HoF requirement should be "Was this guy one of the 2 or 3 best players in the league at his position for a significant stretch of time (meaning more than just one season)?" I don't see how Rivers passes this test. I'm not going to go through all the numbers, but I doubt there was more than one season in which he was one of the two or three QBs in the league. The top QBs of his era were Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and P. Manning. Rivers is somewhere in the next tier, along with Matt Ryan, Eli and maybe Matt Stafford--good--often very good--but not great.

You’re mistaking me for someone who thinks Eli belongs in the HoF...

If Rivers makes the Hall of Fame, then the honor has pretty much lost all meaning.

And it’s also a pipe dream. Dropping back five slots at the end of round one isn’t going to net you a second round pick, even a late one.

That’s a must. Fortunately, easy to find, though.