MattM

Make no mistake about it, everybody but Pats* fans hate that POS--some day soon he'll get his.....

Even if he did drop one right in the chest early in the game?

Average is a lot better than we've got right now in the middle of the line....

Completely agree on 1. Absolutely no D line push or pressure on passing plays and our O-line has looked atrocious the last few weeks. Problem is, it takes time and cash to build those out. I see us drafting a DE in Rd 1 next year, but that's just to replace an aging Schobel ultimately. How do you fix the other 2-4 guys you need to do this right (another D lineman and a C and guard, IMHO)? Ralph may sign one FA starter, but it's unlikely we'll find the other 2-3 guys we need in the draft, especially with our propensity to not draft those positions high......

Me, too--figured there'd be a separate Pats* only rule on that, too.....

Apparently he did get the flag out, but the "refs didn't see it"--what a shock.....

Looks like the fix has already started--two garbage calls on that TD drive already....

Our only hope on this point is that our old LB, Jim Haslett, with his sending in the tape of the Rams game where NE was called for 0 penalties two weeks ago with the quote "I just want them to know we know", served to put Mike Pereira on notice that folks are on to the refs "lenient" (to say the least) treatment of the Pats*. Maybe that will make a difference this year--I mean, we can hope, right?

In a bizarre twist, Wilfork is apparently rescinding his admission on this according to an article I read yesterday. Anyone who's seen the hit on Youtube, however, knows he's full of sh*t.....

That first game in 2006 is my personal favorite--it was so bad that TMQ devoted space to it in his column, including the phantom whistle that cost us a TD on Nate Clements' pick of Tommy Boy and that was just the beginning of a series of some of the most ridiculous calls against the Bills I've ever seen in watching them for almost 40 years. If the fix wasn't in that game I'll eat your shorts.....

....is that Big Bob's wallet comes out late in the game if it's close and the refs end up deciding this one, as they have in many prior Bills-Pats* contests. Anyone else have that nagging feeling that if this one turns out to be close we can count on seeing the BS hankies fly yet again late in the game just in time to let the Cheatahs steal it?

I kept hearing all night about how the Colts were getting burned by keeping their safeties back. Why? It's pretty clear after watching this game that Cassel has real trouble being accurate beyond 10-12 yards downfield. Just look at that last series when he was heaving desperation throws downfield that weren't within 15 yards of his target. Other than the long pass to Gaffney (that was dropped) I honestly can't recall him hitting on a pass that went more than 15 yards in the air. In such as case, even with Randy Moss and all, why not just sit on all the underneath stuff and bring at least one safety up into the box? In terms of the Pats*' D, I thought they played alright tonight, considering all factors--as noted elsewhere, they did hold Manning to 18 points at home. Nothing to be ashamed about, really.

It's certainly true that Trent had a bad game today in terms of the turnovers, but I think we all need to realize that he's only a second year player who is going to make mistakes this season. We got spoiled the first 4 weeks when he looked like a 10 year vet making all the throws and smart decisions, but he's just coming back to the reality of what he is--a very talented young QB with the potential (IMHO) to be not just a good one, but a great one, but who is still, despite that, playing only his first full starting season in the League. In some ways that goes for the entire team--it's a young team that I expected to compete in 2009 personally. Of course, I've been ecstatic like the rest of you this season, but I think it's only natural that this team comes back to earth a little bit. The question will be whether they can pick themselves up and get back to work--next week will be tough, but I don't think a win against a Brady-less Pats* team is impossible, even in Foxboro. I guess we'll see about that next week..... As for tonight, go Colts!

Yes, I saw him fall down on an earlier pass play to Parrish and thus he wasn't able to block to get Roscoe sprung.....

"Wilfork started his meeting with Goodell admitting a hit to Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman last season was a cheap shot, but when the commissioner started to to review the alleged late hit on Cutler, Wilfork's wife handed the commissioner the new DVD." So we can add lying POS to Vince's resume, too--remember last season when he was telling everyone within earshot that it wasn't a dirty hit on Losman. What complete garbage all of this is. Yet again we see how far in the Pats*' pocket the League is--disgusting.....

Hey, Phil, speaking of pass rush, how's Gholston doing? I thought that kid was going to be a beast coming out of the draft, but haven't heard much about him to date. Here's hoping he cranks it up soon, just not starting tomorrow. Why not wait until you're playing the Pats*.....

Yep, just checked it out myself. The Pats* were indeed not called for a single penalty all day. Incredible, absolutely incredible (and I mean that in the literal sense). That doesn't give me a good feeling about our odds against them in Foxboro in two weeks. Looks like Kraft has gotten the checkbook out again and you just can't beat them and the refs, no matter how good of a team you are.

I guess we really shouldn't be shocked, but it is just odd that those guys seem to get all the breaks from the zebras. Apparently in this one the Pats* were not called for a single penalty, yet the Rams were called for 9, despite some obvious calls that should have been flagged on NE, all as per Rams fans here: http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/biased-officiating-33009/ I didn't watch much of the game, but it seemed like every time I turned the channel there the Rams were getting hit with a key penalty. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it does seem odd to me how often teams who play New England b*tch that they're playing 11 on 12, and it's also good to know that it's not just us who feel that way.....

Only problem is that story is almost a day old now--ages in new media time. The other Mort stuff was being reported about 2 hours ago.

As per ESPN radio and the ESPN TV crawl and our buddy Mort in particular, the NFL and Union have confirmed to him that it's 8 players in total, including 3 Saints, and 4 of them are Butenamide violations.

Last thoughts on this--I take back what I said above. Whitner's a bit of a chunky guy, so he may in fact have taken this to lose weight. Donte's shown too much character to date to not be given the benefit of the doubt on this by fans. Still, anyone else wonder if the recent secondary reshufflings (putting Scott in Donte's old spot) might be the result of the coaching staff preparing for a few games without Mr. Whitner? Let's just hope that Ko, Ashton and Terrence are all healthy if and when Donte serves his 4 games......

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=435108 To answer my own question, here you go. If you also watch Clayton's video referred to in that post he says the number is 18 in total and that "there are some other big names" on it, so this might be true. If so, that will really suck, but at least it's not Stroud on the list, who'd have to serve a year off. I would still be very disappointed in Donte if this turns out to be true, since it's not like he's a big guy who needed to lose the weight from a diuretic.....

If it's someone on another board, can you please provide a link then?

You obviously haven't been paying attention the last 5 years or so, but due to Kraft's influence the Pats* are the League's media darlings despite the whining their fans do about things like Spygate. Speaking of which, anyone else notice how poorly officiated a game it was on Monday night (going in guess which direction)? I've never seen that head official before in my life. Just curioius, but has anyone else ever seen him before? Perhaps Mike Pereira ordered him up special for Big Bob just to make sure that the new "America's Team" didn't find itself on the wrong end of things. As it turned out, the Donkos played so badly they didn't need any help, but I'm sure they'd have been there for the Pats* if they'd have needed it, last years' Ravens-game style.....