Saint Doug

The Gandy argument is a good one. Peters should be making more than Mike Gandy. And that would be hilarious if the Walker started blowing hot steam about his contract, leading the Bills to open negotiations.

And Joe Shmoe is not allowed to sit home on his butt "holding-out" for that raise. He would be fired. So, you are correct, these situations are completely different.

You're ghey!

Can we merge this with [please fix subject]???????? thread?

bump.

Yeah, it's just a game, dude. Injuries can take away someone's livelihood - causing them to earn a living like the rest of us [only half joking]. Injuries could also rob people of pursuing their dream and their career. No one wants to see this.

That really was an excellent read. It really puts in perspective what a rookie has to endure - especially a QB. The rookies are so green and easily intimidated. Just imagine being shoved into a game against the Cheatriots and being pinned down at the 1. Then having Seau screaming at you - telling you exactly what you thinking. I can see why some people say that QBs must have big egos - they need them to survive. This further explains why we need Peters back and quickly.

He was one of the few players who left the Bills and still continued to be great.

He's probably just visiting Dave and Busters.

You are right. This is not just a scope to clean out a little scar tissue. This is a knee that no one ever thought would allow him to play football again. He has 3 ligaments reconstructed in this knee. This does not sound good for Willis. Now that he has his millions, I wonder how motivated he will be during his rehab.

It's not exactly what he did or didn't do. It's that we have so many young, promising CBs on this team, including what may be the emergence of Youboty. We already know what we have in James and he may even be past his prime. It may even come down to the team picking between Youboty and James.

No, he wouldn't stay. He believes he can be a starter and if not here, then somewhere else.

Bringing in Pennington and shipping JP would be an excellent idea. Pennington does play very well sometimes (not often, but sometimes) and it is usually due to his brain. He has never dazzled anyone based on his physical attributes or skills. He would be a perfect person to mentor Edwards and to help teach him the game. JP is not the mentor - his work ethic is horrible (based on the stuff I have read on here - sorry, no link). And JP is a constant reminder to him that he may be riding the pine soon (which is not exactly a bed thing, but we should totally commit to a QB). This is not a nourishing environment and face it, Edwards is young and he needs guidence. Pennington could give him this and not be a constant threat.

Can someone comment on the comparison between the GB offense and NY offense? Hasn't Favre played in the West Coast Offense for his whole career in GB and now he will not be (while in NY)? Could this affect his play?

Peters is holding out? I didn't notice...

Yeah, I guess that settles it. God has spoken. We can essentially now ignore all of Peter's inaction and failed attempts at communication.

Reading the article in the Buffalo News today, is it possible that Peters just wants to retire and not play anymore? Maybe this is why he is so silent, he's mulling over retiring and doesn't want to speak out prematurely. He has made no indication that he wants to continue playing. His absolute silence is very strange for a hold-out. Or, maybe this is a Dimitrius Underwood type of situation and/or he just wants to become a reverend. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/405179.html

Excellent report, much appreciated. Chambers making Kelsay look like an all-pro... Too bad the NFL doesn't play 7-on-7, we would be a shoe-in for SB. Greer always pwns during training camp.

Oh, calm down. The post was in half jest.

Great, another Corey Moore/Brandon Spoon/Gabe Northern in the making. If its not a DB, I don't have much faith in any defensive player we draft.

However, football is a team sport. How much your #1 corner can shut out the opponents #1 receiver is great for individual stats and PB appearences, but apparently had little impact on San Fran's defense. If shutting down the #1 receiver is not winning you games, then how have you improved your defense as a whole unit? Now, look at the winners of the SB the last 5 years: TB, NE, NE, Steelers, Colts, NYG. High paid CBs were not the centerpieces of these teams. Look at NFLs highest CB salaries (2007 numbers): Clements, San Fran: 11.1 mil/year McAlister, Saints: 9.4 Surtain, Chiefs: 9.3 Jammer, SD: 8.5 Samuel, NE: 7.7 Springs, Redskins: 7.3 Baxter, Browns: 6.9 Bailey, Broncos: 5.9 Henry, Cowboys: 5.6 David, Saints: 5.5 http://content.usatoday.com/sports/footbal...on.aspx?pos=127 Paying top dollar for a CB clearly does not equate to winning SBs (nor to even making the playoffs, in some cases). The one exception would be NE and it is entirely clear that Samuel was not the driving force behind the NE SB wins. Now, the CB is a very important position, but I don't think it is the position you "build around" or throw the most money at. Great CBs will probably get you into the playoffs, but there not going to win you a SB - you need the ultimate team balance (i.e. a true "team") to do this.

Actually... San Fran rushing defense: 2006: rank=19, YRDs/game=121.0, YRDs/attempt ave=4.1, rushing TDs given up=18 2007: rank=22, YRDs/game=118.5, YRDs/attempt ave=3.8, rushing TDs given up=9 However, just for fun, let's just imagine you actually knew what you were talking about. If San Fran's rushing defense stunk so much, why would a team dish out 80 million to one player who mostly defends the pass?

For what its worth, San Fran's defense didn't really improve much with him. 2006 (without Clements): Passing yards allowed/game=223.2, INT=14, PTS/game=25.8, overall rank=26th 2007 (with Clements): Passing yards allowed/game=227.7, INT=12, PTS/game=22.8, overall defense rank=25th It's a team sport. We don't need to blow our load on just one (apparently small) piece of the puzzle.

No doubt this is probably the most important position on the team (besides QB, of course). They should eventually show him the money - a lot of it. However, if you click on the link above, you will see a photo of Whitworth standing next to Levi Jones (another person we should have drafted, but missed on) at camp. Point is that Peters needs to show up at camp, that will send a strong message.