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No, but we'd have hope that he's going through rookie growing pains. Marv preferred Cutler anyway, so we'd be growing with Cutler if Marv had jettisoned JP. The point is many of us have seen enough of JP to come to the conclusion that the Bills will NEVER have a winning record with JP as QB. He is an inadequate player who does not appear to have the necessary intangibles to succeed as a starting QB in the NFL . There can only be 2 reasons for the team not turning to Nall: 1) He hasn't shown enough in practice to indicate he has any potential to be a successful starting QB in the NFL 2) The coaches have some pipe dream that with improved talent around him, JP would be playing like a legitimate NFL QB, and plan on keeping him as next year's starter. Put me in the JP is a bust column, I've seen enough.

Take a look at how Jim Ballard dominated in college & then try to remember his time with the Bills. No way that low a level player starts as a rookie, odds say he's a developmental project at best. Edit: I just looked him up, he's 5-11 190 lbs-forgetaboutit! http://www.esu.edu/athletics/fb04/jterwilliger04.htm

What younger TEs? Kevin Everett is worthless & will never develop into anything but a former NFL player and Neufeld is no youngster to develop.

The Colts just scored.

Willis might have some trade value. Right now, unless he has a great 2nd half, Takeo has no trade value, and if he does have a great 2nd half, we're crazy to let him go.

I didn't want to chance a snowstorm or drive for a long time on the night of New Year's Eve. I figured that for $285 including a motel for Saturday night, it was worth flying. If I had to do it again, I'd probably drive, since I found out I can't bring anything into the stadium & if I drove I could have brought a suitcase.

I figured if there was a delay, I'd still get home the same day. I didn't expect them to move my flight 4 hours forward. I'm now leaving at 8:55 & I'll have a lot of spare time. I'll be waiting hours at the airport now, because I'll probably hop on the MTA light rail to the airport shortly after the game. They run about 9 trains between the time the game ends & my flight. At least I should have no trouble getting to the airport on time, I know I was cutting things close, but I always figured on booking the earliest flight out because of delays. Now I don't have to rush out of the stadium so in the long run it probably is better & I've learned a few things since yesterday.

This summer I booked a round trip flight to Baltimore for the Bills/Ravens 12/31 game with my return flight leaving BWI at 6:34 pm. I got home yesterday and I had received an e-mail from Expedia telling me that something in my trip had been changed & Expedia accepted the change in my behalf. When I called Expedia to learn what the change was, the computer voice indicated that the status had been changed to booked. I figured it was just some accounting thing, but I answered that I wanted to hear my entire itinerary just to play it safe. It turns out they changed my 6:34 departure to a flight leaving Baltimore around 2:30. Needless to say, that didn't work for me. WTF are they thinking? I book an evening flight out of Baltimore on Sunday after arriving on Saturday and they can't figure out that I might need to be in Baltimore Sunday afternoon. I called last night & the person on the phone indicated he'd try to get me a 7:30 pm flight out of Baltimore & they would probably notify me within a few hours. I didn't get any message so I called back & nothing had been done! I called back & after close to 1/2 hour, I finally was able to get them to book me an 8:55 pm flight out of BWI. Now I have to wait another day to confirm that the flight was actually changed, since the turnaround time on their website is 24 hours. In the future, I won't be booking anything with Expedia where I only am staying 1 night and they have an opportunity to screw things up this badly. I've had flights changed where I'm leaving after my business or pleasure is done, but a planned 30 hour stay leaves too little room to have a major screwup occur if they change things on you. Just a warning to all, if you're booking months in advance for a football game where you're coming to town, staying one night & then leaving shortly after the game, Expedia & similar agents might not be the best choice. It might be better to book with a travel agent who understands the purpose of your flight & won't change it to the middle of the game.

Most companies don't draft employees. Most companies don't give signing bonuses. Most companies don't have a depth chart Most companies don't have a work day list of 8 paid inactives. Playing in the NFL cannot be compared to being employed by "most companies"

Do you really think Dwight Drane was better than Henry Jones by the end of the 1991 season?

In 1991 there was a DB who held out & missed a lot of camp. The incumbent at his position, Leonard Smith, started the whole season, then got injured in the AFC Championship game & Smith's backup, Dwight Drane started Super Bowl XXVI with the holdout seeing little to no action the entire 1991 season & post-season. The following year, Henry Jones became the starting SS & went to the Pro Bowl.

I voted for Hevesi, but I hope he gets tossed out. The reason is I couldn't vote for Callaghan because I'm in the state retirement system and Callaghan wants to end pensions as we know them for new employees. Even though I would be grandfathered in and Callaghan couldn't stop my pension, anyone who is against the concept, and is the sole trustee of the currently $140 billion fund, worries me. I would be concered that he might hurt the fund through benign neglect. How can I trust a man who doesn't believe in the pension fund to work hard to insure its growth & stability? If Hevesi gets tossed, we'll get a guy a lot more qualified than Callaghan. If Hevesi stays, we get a guy a lot more qualified than Callaghan, with a proven record of being pro-pension. Either way, a better choice for me than Callaghan represented. You can have an honest incompetent or a crook who is competent. When it comes to my money, give me the competent crook, because he may steal SOME of my money, but he won't blow ALL of my money by screwing up. Maybe I can vote for a crook because I think all politicians are crooks. I vote for the crook whose agenda fits my interests 1st, then I move on to how I feel about the issues that may not affect me directly, but are important to other people that I believe should benefit. However, when it's financial, it's all my interest only when I vote.

I never said to keep JP in my post. I don't know what to do with JP yet. But if you had to give up 2 #1s & a lot of $ to bring in Schaub, who may not have enough of an arm outside of a dome or warm weather city, it certainly would hurt this team.

Fails on character. Has at least 2 arrests.

Doesn't sound any better than RJ in Jacksonville + according to scouting reports out of college, he has a weak arm. Here's PFW's comments on arm strength: "Lacks the arm strength to drive ball downfield. Deep balls tend to hang rather than turn over." Draft Insiders Digest: " Matt is a big passer who lacks a cannon for an arm, but shows fine accuracy and timing in the short and intermediate passing game...He is a fine passer with only adequate arm strength and mobility...As a passer, he needs work on the deep game where his accuracy falls substantially compared to the shorter game." HE PLAYS IN A DOME!!!! Please please, just give it up already on this guy. Every time I see a "get Schaub" post, I want to throw up!

I didn't know Rush Limbaugh was a poster on TSW.

That totally sums it up. Anyone who watched the game knows that the game's stats don't come close to the reality of what we saw Sunday. I got an e-mail from Petrino, who didn't see the game & just read the stats & he thought the team kept JP on a short leash. Throw out the stats, watch the game and it's obvious that the Bills were horrible except on special teams & one busted coverage play by Evans. Maybe the A-train gets a pass too. However, if Brett Favre didn't hand the game to the Bills, it's an ugly loss in a game totally dominated by GB on O & D.

The correct term is he didn't swallow.

This is the best response so far. I'm a fellow old timer, I am not originally from Buffalo, but I went to college in WNY & then lived in or around Buffalo a few years after college. Once I started going to games I had an allegiance to the team. Even though I now live over 290 miles away, I go to just about every game (I'll miss my 1st home game since 1990 this 12/24). Unlike fans who pick & choose their team watching games on TV, I have no choice to stick with the Bills, since for better or worse, I've been a fan over 30 years. Where I currently live, most of the people are what I call "TV fans". If their team starts to go through bad times, all they have to do is change the channel & presto-new favorite team! Every team I root for (Bills, Yankees, Mets, Nets) have been located in an area I've lived in & I have seen them in their own stadium or arena. I can never be a tv fan. During the Super Bowl years, I felt that team was my just reward for all the prior years of lousy football I endured. I went to all 4 Super Bowls and I felt I deserved to go to each of them. When the Bills make it back to the top, these years will make it that much sweeter.

Edit : Link: http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feed.../ap3142429.html The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man. The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations." The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex. Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife." In a written statement, Haggard said: "I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance." Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver. Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard. He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week. Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP. "There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning," he said. Richard Cizik, vice president for government affairs for the evangelicals association, expressed shock. "Is this something I can imagine of Ted Haggard? No," he said. Carolyn Haggard, spokeswoman for the New Life Church, said a four-member church panel will investigate the allegations. She did not identify the board members. "This is really routine when any sort of situation like this arises, so we're prepared," she said. "The church is going to continue to serve and be welcoming to our community. That's a priority." Another gay conservative against gay marriage, what a surprise. Why is the conservative against gay marriage? Because he's afraid his boyfriend will demand he divorce his wife & marry him.

The best part of all this is that any slim chance he had of getting support in the Democratic primaries in 2008 is gone. There will be no contributions, no momentum...nothing. He is done as a Presidential candidate in any way, shape or form. That's a very good thing for the Democratic party. Now if Hillary could say something this stupid, the Democrats might have a decent chance of winning the Presidency in '08.

No comparison to Henry is complete without adding arrests, drug suspensions & missed games due to injury. You can quote all the stats you want, but when given a chance to replace Henry the Bills had to take it because his off field troubles make him too tough to count on. How would the pro- Henry people have reacted if his 4 game suspension had come as a Bill?

I've actually met A.J. & he seemed to be a pretty good guy to me. Of course the context was a little different than the NFL-his son attended St. Francis, where one of my closest friends teaches & that's where I met A.J. Smith. When my friend suffered a mild heart attack a few years ago, he got an envelope with the San Diego Chargers as the return address. A.J. Smith took the time to send him get well wishes from San Diego. So I don't think A.J. is an !@#$.

I didn't say getting Flutie was luck, I said we were lucky that A.J. Smith pushed so hard for him. Unfortunately, we were unlucky that Ralph decided to go to Donahoe instead of promoting A.J. Smith. As it turned out, we had a pretty good GM in the making in A.J. & we let him get away.

I have to admit as I was typing my post, I had to think the problem might just be Ralph, I didn't put it in, but i definitely thought about it.