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Only one QB had a big passing day against us. The problem is that one of them did it in the last game, so it feels like everyone has been carving us up.

Folks, this is not baseball or hockey. You can’t remake a roster midseason. You can tweak, but no NFL team makes multiple impactful moves at the deadline.

Making the playoffs are not a given. There have been two years during this run when they had to end the season on a 6-7 game winning streak just to get in. Remember that game when they almost got beat by Easton Stick in LA? That would have ended that season. How about when it took a Matt Ryan meltdown in Orchard Park just to get the chance to lose in 13 seconds? The Playoffs are not a given, especially with another good team in the division. The Bills need to get focused.

The Bills killed a lot of teams last year with pretty much the same dudes. And in fact, Philly didn’t steamroll everyone. The only teams they destroyed in the regular season were the Bengals, Cowboys, and Giants. They really didn’t start rolling until the NFC Championship Game. Heck of a time to find your A game.

You would have felt the same way last year if you were a Philly fan. The Eagles went 2-2 before their week 5 bye. and in three of those four games failed to reach 24 points. They actually lost 33-16 in Tampa going into that bye. Must have been a fun two weeks on Philly sports talk radio.

Sorry. I’m just tired of people making arguments on here that they think are correct but that are not.

He hasn't been any good since the NFL closed the loophole that allowed his WRs to be running full-speed at the snap like it was a Roughriders - Roughriders game.

Did someone say foot?

I agree with you, but just to set the record straight I wouldn't call Tre's 1 year, 3 million contract "meaningful" in the 2025 NFL.

But you have to have some defense. Last year, Joe Burrow had 4,918 passing yards, 43TDs, and only 9 INTs, and his team missed the playoffs. Their offense was insane and they kept losing high-scoring games because their defense was as bad as their offense was good. I get that you can win by leaning into the offense, but there is a limit. And that limit is probably giving up 44 points to Russell Wilson and the Steelers at home.

The problem is that you don't just need a #1. Any team with a #1 also has to have a very good #1b or #2. Like Higgins in Cinncinnati, Addison in Minnesota, or Smith in Philadelphia. It's too easy for defenses to take one guy away. That's why the Jags spent all that capital to get Hunter even though they hit on BTJ the year before.

Tell that to the great Howie Roseman.

My back-of-the-napkin math has that at ~42 million cap hit to have two low-round rookie QBs.

And I don't know why. The Texans also play a base 4-2-5 defense and play even more zone coverage than the Bills. It's not like Poona Ford, who has done better as a NT in a 3-4 on both LA teams. (for the record, I had to look up all this info on other teams' base defenses.)

Well, it doesn't sound like he was in favor of it. Just like he wasn't in favor of drafting Sanders. Haslem makes decisions on his own.

Wow. Stefanski wasn't consulted and said that the "Joe trade" took him by surprise. [Yakov Smirnoff voice] What a franchise [/Yakov Smirnoff voice]. https://www.si.com/nfl/browns-kevin-stefanski-shedeur-sanders-will-back-up-dillon-gabriel

Or they demanded that Russ allow Skyline to sell a "Dangeruss Spicy 3-Way," and Cierra said no.

Our Strategy was to take away Maye's #1 option in Hunter Henry and stop the run. They did that pretty well. Unfortunately, that opened things up for Diggs. As a fan, that was the worst possible outcome.

This times 1000. It's like on hockey boards when a great player like Austin Matthews scores an amazing goal, and everyone analyzes the Sabres' defense to find out who missed their assignment. Sometimes the other guys make great plays.

I've watched that play over and over. The only open throwing lane was to Shakir. Both the OL and DL was between Josh and Keon. He probably couldn't even see him. What he should have done was to either: Throw the ball low and away so only Shakir could make a play on it (Another poster suggest this option, so I can't take credit here) Rush through the lane and pick up a yard or two Roll out and throw it away. Throwing that ball where he did and allowing a CB to jump the route is Josh Allen pre-2024 stuff. There was more of that in this game that I would like to see ever again.

Yeah, but I remember it, and in my memory they scored 50 points a game and never lost. Every play was a TD on a crossing route to Andre Reed. I was also young and didn't have a drinking problem. So, take us back to 1991 so I can get a mulligan on all the bad decisions I made in my life. Damn you Joe Brady! This message board for the past 3.5 days has been an exercise in how many ways people can start "fire the coach and GM" threads. People have been pretty creative.

I agree with this 99%, because the Bills don't really play a "soft zone" very often anymore. They play a lot of zone, but almost every NFL team does that. But contrary to TBD rage posts, the Tampa-2 left Buffalo with Leslie Frazier. Any look at the All-22 will tell you that. In fact, they didn't play cover-2 on the play that the OP rages about. But they did play cover-2 two plays later and let Maye end the game with an easy pass for 19. But the only way to know this is to watch the overhead views, but most people refuse to pay $15 a month to see what actually happens in games. Lets put some data to this. Like everything sports these days, there is data. There is not a single team in the NFL who plays more man than zone, but the Browns are close to 50/50. I think I might start a thread with this table so that people can stop acting like the Bills are the only team that plays a zone defense. But in the meantime, here ya go: https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/stats-nfl/nfl-coverage-schemes/

The Bills were moving the ball with ease on their first drive. That stupid fumble killed what felt like a TD. If the Bills went up 7-0 in the first quarter, that game would have played entirely differently.

If you want to get mad about a play, get mad about the play two plays later. 2-9 from the NE 42 with 1:25 left. Bills come out in a cover 2 zone, and the Pats get a 19-yard completion to Boutte, who got into a space in the zone. That was ballgame. Looking at it again, it felt like they were conceding the FG after the play to Diggs. Big mistake. Well yeah. It’s clear that the Bills win the game without the turnovers and drive-killing pre-snap penalties in the first half. But they did misplay the end game situation.