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phat pat was my fav bill for like 5 years. he was the most underated DT in the nfl and dr z and a couple others noticed the whole time. he was a guy who plugs it up and gets enough of a pass rush in to get pressure in the middle, allowing all kinds of good stuff too happen on blitzes. he is a rare hard working talented tough DT and we were retarded for letting him go. i tried to justify it to myself saying he was old and expensive, but he is just plain good

jp is not good. he needs to improve and not regress YET AGAIN by the end of the year to be worth his roster spot. there are about 40+ nfl qbs (including back ups of course) who are better than JP right now, and jp hasn't shown much in terms of improvement from his first game last year against houston.

i don't think we should start nall, but i'll be pretty surprised if JP is anything but crap. he hasn't shown much, and each time he does he turns into a turnover machine or the ultimate "you suck so don't lose the game no your own" QB. we have won 3 games this season. he was decent against Minni who can't produce any pass rush at all. he was a non factor against miami he was a non factor against GB (he made one play to a wide open guy on a blown coverage). he brings nothing and there are 20 qbs who can step in today and do better (altho prolly not nall). that said i hope he snaps into it and figures out what he needs to do and finishes how he started.

i want jp to run at least 5 times agains the dolts

i'm not saying that we should pull jp, not unless he REALLY stinks it up early next week, but i am saying i'm nearly convinced he is no good. he is just not effective as an NFL QB. the only 2 things he has shown any ability on is running and the deep bomb. he had one solid play all day today. he doesn't see open targets and is a very poor quarterback when it comes to the blitz. he has looked good once or twice in his life, but has regressed since early in the season and frankly i don't see how he is going to make our team better. his best games come when he does less damage than positive plays (as opposed to going out and taking the game over) and that just isn't good enough. couple that with the fact the he is NOT steady, is just a fool when getting blitzed, and lacks touch on short passes and you have a QB that i think we are just about ready to throw on the scrap heap. i really hope he is better than this and i am wrong, but he has shown me no more than guys like bollinger, holcombe (who i really don't want to start) harrington and other straight average caretaker qbs

jp is a top 100 qb, prolly not top 50

jp is not good

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CBs are more valuable than WRs in the NFL, they are rarer

i'm not a pro leinart or anti losman guy, but just from watching what i see on the screen i think that matt is simply a better qb than jp. jp's running and cannon arm have just not been a big enough impact in enough games so the advantages that jp has over matt aren't getting used anywhere near enough to overcome the shortcomings that jp has vs matt. combine that with the fact that zona doesn't have a good line or running game, and that matt is a pure rook, you've got a comparison that makes jp look below average at best and matt like a future star

looking back we should have taken leinart. he is just much much better than JP was as a rook, and prolly much better than JP is now. i really thought matt l would be a bust, i think i can say i was wrong and it is his second game. every single advantage matt L has he pushes to the limit, the reads the quickness, the accuracy -- just like brees or any other efficient QB he plays the game the way it bst suits him. JP forces things, when he doesn't see what he likes quickly he stands like drew did. JP has insane athleticism but doesn't just go ahead and use it. he doesn't move well before passing (he can scramble some, but can't juke around in small spaces and deliver strikes) he has very poor touch on short passes, and mostly i just want him to roll out and make defenders look silly but he can't seem to do that while passing. zona has a chit line and admittedly great WRs, but leinart makes that team look great. hate 2 be the last one on the badwagon, but leinart should have been a bill

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they are pass happy and don't really run well. if we do well against their run early they will be one dimensional and IMO that plays well into our strength on D

i can see chicago only passing (with some big plays but some turnovers as well) on us and us running on chicago. i'll take that on the road everytime.

YES HE DID!!

i went 2 mcfad, but it was boked so i went 2 calicos maybe will see u guys there next time

thanks buddy

hey all, i need to watch the bills just like all of us! i am donw in the west village, i need to find a bar that will have the bills game on. can anyone please recommend a place? thanks much!

bro i am with you 100% on this. the D without spikes and while still figuring a new system without all our starters in place got beat up on one drive and the kicked huge ass afterwards. i think with mccargo and whitner contributing along with a healthy spikes we will be forcing a lot of turnovers and really frustrating opponents.

here is my issue: you can't name very good players and say they are the most overrated. they are still great. a bad player who is spoken of as OK or good is more over rated than a great player who is spoken off as being the best. charles woodson is over rated, reay lewis is over rated now (he was great before but the d he is on now was top 5 without him AND ed reed!!) that said i'd have to say bruschi is the most over rated. he was the worst LB on the pats last season except for maybe chad and getting comeback player of the year is an effing joke

over the course of a season a team that gets a lot of sacks is one that is good at getting to the QB. a player's individual season or game numbers might be misleading, but for a team over a year you get a good idea. it has to be QB rating. 3 5 yard outs with a holding penalty gets a massive QB rating and no first down. 1 for 3 and a 22 yard bomb over tight coverage gets you a first down and a worse QB rating. if a qb throws a couple TDs and no INTs you get a huge QB rating, but if a QB throws a couple long bombs for Ints on hail mary's and the team runs it in from the one instead of a pass he looks about 50 points worse on the QB rating. it is a dink and dunk rating

without condoning wife beating people here need to realise that domestic abuse is a two way street. women play their part in domestic conflict in according to some people are the cause of more than half of domestic abuse. aside from physical abuse mental and emotional abuse are common and damaging things in spousal relationships and will often cause more long term problems than assault. saying that spousal abuse is only a matter of men hitting wives is a bit chauvanistic. after a number of domestic events (and there always seems to be several) both spouses are making a decision to maintain the relationship.

he's a really good linebacker who is over rated because he is a short runt and fat short guys think they are like him because they also have a fat face. london is better IMO

if our D gets in gear quickly we can beat the pats at home this year. our secondary and LBs should match up well with the WRs for the pats and a bit of speed at the line will give us a better pass rush than we've had for a while. if our new OC can figure out how to get something out of our O we have a solid shot of beating the pats, i dunno about week one tho

old time players deserve props but the quality of athletes in the NFL just goes up and up. otto should be honoured that a bigger faster stronger more professional player today is willing to extend his legacy by wearing his number.