BuffaloRebound

If Beane cam make that happen, he should be put in charge of Middle East peace negotiations. The Giants and Browns have been playing cat and mouse for the last 2 months. Can’t see the 2 of them agreeing to a 3 way trade unless Cleveland has given up on getting Barkley at 4.

I like Mayfield, but it’s hard to disagree with any of this. In the Ohio State tape, there really wasn’t much resembling a traditional dropback NFL offense. Maybe that’s where the NFL is heading, but I’d trade pick 22 for Foles before I’d trade up for Mayfield. Would have to build a similar offense around them, but one guy has won a Super Bowl.

Mayfield had a great game, but most of those throws were quick hitters over the middle of the field or roll-outs. Didn’t see many sideline passes from the pocket. He doesn’t have Russell Wilson’s arm. Watson was a better prospect coming out of college.

It is completely reasonable when that job requires risking your physical and potentially mental health every time you step on the field and when his first contract will probably guarantee him $20m. Unless he wins multiple Super Bowls early in his career, I’d put the over/under on the years Rosen plays before he retires at 6 years. He seems like a guy I’d love to have a beer with, but what’s his motivation to keep playing after his 1st, 2nd, 3rd concussion?

I don’t think you can trade up for a guy like this. I’ll give him credit for honesty, but how can you trust this guy to battle through growing pains if he struggles or stay grounded if he takes NFL by storm. I’d take him at 12 or if it only costs a 3rd to move up a couple spots. He did nothing but add fuel to the fire in that interview that football isn’t that high on the priority list but rather a platform for his other interests. Brady might be a pretty boy, but there’s no doubting first and foremost the guy loves football and winning.

Well, we got 3 good years out him before he went crazy. That’s 3 more than I thought we’d get.

It makes sense for everyone except maybe the Jets and Bills to be talking up these QB’s. Giants, Browns at 4, Denver, and Colts all want to see Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson fall to them. Once those 3 are gone, the price tag to move up falls significantly. And 2 of Rosen, Mayfield, and Allen could still be available.

I just don't think you can trade up that far to take Allen. Seems like he's won the offseason, but still so many questions about his game performance. I'd take him at 12. Not sure how much higher I'd go to take him.

How do you know the Giants didn't tell the Bills not to blow all their draft capital getting to 3? If Darnold goes 1, maybe the Giants would rather have 12 plus 22 and a first next year than 3 and a couple 3rd's. If I'm the Giants and I'm not taking a QB, I want a 1 next year more than I want the 3rd pick.

It's believable but I'm sure there's an agenda to it.

I think 12 is too high for Jackson, but I guess you have to over-draft QB's. 12 is a good spot to take Allen, but if 4 QB's go before 12 a Blue chip player like Derwin James or Roquan Smith will be there. I'd take Allen at 12 first, then if all 4 top QB's are gone, I'm taking one of blue chip position players that fall.

Still don't understand the Jets giving up the farm 6 weeks before the draft for pick 3. It's very possible whoever they wanted at 3 would've been available at 6. Its also very possible they still get jumped by the Bills at 2.

This means nothing. Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. Any QB they take at 1 is sitting the first 10 games at least. Stanton will be Tyrod's backup this year and Darnold's backup next year.

Starting to agree with your opinion of Rosen. I think he's a more injury-prone Jay Cutler with less arm talent.

Not sure it has anything to do with doing a deal with a friend, but more about not spending all my draft capital for 3 when I have a shot at 2. Clearly the Jets were in desperation mode and the Giants were not an option for them.

It makes no sense for Bills to leak this info. Just let's Giants and Browns know we're desperate. Perhaps it's all a smokescreen and Jackson or the guy from Oklahoma St are the real targets.

I'm leaning more and more to keeping the picks. We can get 4-5 quality starters and get a QB like Jackson or Rudolph whose chance of succeeding is not that different than the top 4. The Browns and Jets are the only sure bets to take a QB in front of us. If Denver passes on QB at 5 which I think is probable, I think Rosen or Allen make it to 12 anyway.

Keep the picks. I don't think any of these QB's are worth trading a crazy amount for. I'd take any of Chubb, Nelson, Barkley, Smith, Edwards, Ward, Fitzpatrick, James, or one of the top 4 QB's at 12. At 22, I'd take Ridley, Evans, one of the DT's, or Lamar Jackson. And we still have 3 more picks in the top 65. This could be a draft that nets you 4-5 top line starters. I'm not giving the majority of that away for a QB that is nowhere close to a sure thing.

I don't think he's a guy you trade up for. If he gets past Denver, he could fall to 12. Same with Rosen but for different reasons. I could see Darnold go 1, Mayfield 3, then Denver taking Rosen or Allen, and then 1 of those 2 dropping.

What's it worth then? For a GM who's not sure he's gonna be around in 2 years, it's probably worth even less than 65th pick right now.

Next years 1sts cancel out. So you're left with 6, 38, and 65(1st rounder 2 years out) versus 12 and 22.

You just posted the RG3 trade was most given up in modern history. The Bills three 1st rounders would be equal or more than what Redskins gave up because one of their 1st rounders was 2 years out. If every year out gets discounted by a round, that's a 3rd rounder. The difference between 6 and 12 might make it a wash, but 12 and 22 this year and a likely top 10 pick next year would be right up there with most capital given up.

This is why I'm starting to think there's no way Beane trades with Giants. Two 1sts this year and a 1st next year (Vegas has Bills as 4th worst odds to win Super Bowl next year) would probably be the most trade capital ever given up. Can't see Beane making that trade for any of these QB's.

Starting to think only 2 QB's go top 5 and that's because Jets panicked and traded up to 3. With no other trades into top 5 which is totally possible, my guess is 1. Darnold; 2. Chubb; 3. Mayfield; 4. Nelson; 5. Barkley. Building a good OL for Darnold is more important than taking a win-now RB.

I think 8 is a good spot. Chicago doesn't have a 3rd rounder. Pick 65 probably gets it done now. Guarantees you one of the top 4 QB's, Chubb, Nelson, Barkley or one of the 2 LB's.