leh-nerd skin-erd

I learned about American history when I went school and took classes about American history. I understand that history is written by the victors, that times change, opinions shift, new evidence can uncovered, people lie now, people lied then. I have no beef with a Ken Burns scripted version of history, with understanding it may be wholly or partially accurate, but do not feel compelled to accept his version at face value without question. A good storyteller can tell a good story. We live in a time when we cannot find consensus on important historical events that happened just a few years ago, where words and actions are interpreted or misinterpreted for political gain and to tip the scales of power. Like him, hate him, but the amount of material we have access to simply because Trump was elected v Harris most definitely impacts how history will be defined, at least until the next version evolves. Cynicism is a good thing, after all, doesn’t that bring us a Ken Burns in the first place?

It happens.

I’ve already done that. Thank you.

“It stinks” isn’t a case, Mup. Why not just state what you think Trump is hiding (and Biden, Garland et al hid before him) and why they hid it? Do you think Maxwell had the goods on Trump but chose not to barter with the Garland DOJ?

No, not at all. In fact, I think you should practice it more frequently.

Interesting. I had asked what you meant by that phrase earlier, but you were probably busy moving that virtue signaler all over the place. Now your clarification is you were talking about the actual founding fathers watching the Burns movie? How would that happen do ya think?

If you approach a series like this objectively, it can be entertaining and enlightening. Still, it’s a story told by a storyteller. What’s the “true patriot” part about all this?

I thought I read this wrong. Then I read this. And in the context of this thread, I think the Founding Fathers, Native Americans, British Regulars, and George Washington himself woulda chuckled.

The doinks that believed Joe B was mentally fit to be President, that he feel prey to slippage multiple times in multiple locations over several years and who thought he wouldn’t pardon his son….yowza!

Things change. Or they don’t. Besides, @4th&long said THE TIME IS COMING! Sure, it was several cycles ago, he missed badly and on reflection his prediction was dirt dumb and dialed out, but he did say it.

I’ve gone for really long drives and never once felt like I was driving sideways. That can’t be a coincidence, can it?

Sure, why not?

I was standing in a hotel room in a foreign land when Trump declared that the Obama admin had wiretapped him. I was p*ssed off, the theory being you can't go around declaring that your political opponent is running surveillance ops on you without proof. I had voted for him, supported him, and thought that was a bridge too far. in the calm light of day, with more and more intel coming out, we can see who the authoritarians are, who the dirty dealers are..... and it rhymes with Shmiberals.

I've answered this, Mup. I'm not a 'hard core' supporter, but voted for him. He demanded the release because it was wise to leverage the fact that Biden/Harris were not releasing them. The implication is that they had something to hide, which he believed would move voters, which likely happened. I think you're mischaracterizing his change of mind as 'hell-bent'. AG Bondi spoke about releasing them in Feb 25. It's November 25 and he signed an order to release. I've already shared why I think Trump does not figure prominently in the files, and so far that mindset seems to hold true. So, I don't think he was worried about releasing them (after all, why release if he's in them?), so what caused his change of heart until now? Likely reasons as I see it: 1. Fear--we talked about Chuck Schumer talking about how the Intelligence Agency has many ways to get you. Someone reached out, something happened, and he decided it wasn't worth it; 2. Political strategy---someone like Hakeem Jeffries reaches out knowing he's going to look dirty, offers to work with Trump on initiatives behind the scenes. Ditto many, many of the other names that will come up. 3. He changed his mind because he saw political advantage to be gained. Of the three...I was thinking 1 until he signed the order, so probably 2.

Thank you.