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me too!

This makes total and common sense, which we had more of both in this world! Hope this did not hurt your Mom financially I did not see that in the mail..but i could have missed it

okay, someone help me out here. CBS News reported this morning 1200 new deaths from yesterday, and both of yall saying not even close. Would really like to smack them over the head and send clip to Ethical Skeptic and Berenson , but want to make sure i have my numbers straight. Can either of you guys help me out here?

you had more money than than ya do now! yep, throw massive amounts of slat and pepper on a butt, throw it in the oven at 250 for 8-9 hours, let it rest 30 minutes, throw it back under broiler for 15-30 to crisp up fat cap. Serve with some dipping sauces like chimichurri, nuac cham, or your favorite BBQ sauce. Just did this a few weeks ago when had a crowd coming over and could not attend the smoker properly..10 minutes to make sauces total...was perfect

Need a couple more weeks, but lets say for discussion sakes the mortality rate continues to be low while the positive test rates continue to rise? Maybe then it becomes palatable to have fans? FWIW, i will keep my tickets no matter what, and hope we get some games in and get credits for the ones, if any, i am not able to attend per the Bills. My bigger fear is they have fans, but only allow fans from NYS to attend. Then i gunna have to hit up my daughter and have her order me a fake from her preferred vendor!

^^^^^^^That was awesome @Seasons1992, have fun in Berts Bikes lot next year!

One can conservatively say Cuomo executive order to force nursing homes to take still positive cases in cost at a minimum 4300 deaths, and some think closer to 19,000 deaths....even at 4300 deaths more than other state in the country outside of New Jersey and PA. That order was 100% on Cuomo..no one else. https://www.businessinsider.com/cuomo-executive-order-4300-recovering-coronavirus-patients-ny-nursing-homes-2020-5 He gives great press conferences compared to Trump, no doubt. But numbers and outcomes are numbers and outcomes, and one just cannot argue he cost more lives in this pandemic than any other single person in the US with that order. Now that states like TX and FLA are getting their first wave, he is taking a victory lap which is quite disturbing to me .

You my friend, are no longer allowed at any TBD tailgate. @Cripple Creek, can you believe the nerve of this guy? Pulled pork in crock pot.... you like breading on your wings and then baked ??

Hmm, expect some blowback on that statement. Warranted in my mind, but will leave my response to the PPP board, as i believe this belongs there as well. You should go there, ignore a bunch of the idiots, but the Covid thread( again, minus the trolls) discussion and articles on Covid are actually quite good and informative. BTW, i can help with who to put on ignore LOL!

see, that is where the logic fails me...if before we were only testing people who had more severe symptoms, testing people with less sysmpotoms should yiels a lower positivity rate no? So lets say before we did 100 tests on really sick and older people, and 10 were positive, we have a 10% positivity rate. One would expect if we did 1000 tests and testing people with less symptoms and more do to contact tracing, same 1000 tests should yield something less than 100 positives. So increase in # of cases for sure, but decrease in positivity rate. But that is not what we are seeing, we are seeing like 120 positives? Agreed death rates are falling, but think we need to see 2 to 3 weeks out after these huge spikes in FLa etc

someone help me out here why my logic is faulty. I may not be remembering correctly but are positivity rates not increasing,. If as stated above there was strict guidelines on who could get the tests earlier , i would think that would drive positive rates through the roof. Now, from the same tweet above( but not shown), 1/2 the people in that guys clinic are getting tests as asked by their employer due to contact( my daughter just had to do this) , would you not think positivity would be declining? BTW, funny here in the Richmond burbs..all the folks in my little circle were killing me for my stance on opening up etc last month...now its all their little darlings getting Covid from a series of high school graduation parties here in the West End of Richmond...classic case of do as i say...now they getting smacked on Social Media as its funny as hell. My daughter who is senior in college had to get tested cause someone she worked with was at the parties. She was negative BTW

Hmm, certainly not seeing that in Richmond Va or the District as of yet, at least in terms of supply and pricing in the cities. One person in our building in DC just sold above asking in less than 4 days..all done virtually. We are about 1 mile from White House. In Richmond, we were hoping to make the switch from burbs to the Fan district, which contains Monument Ave..where the protests are all going on..nothing for sale. Conversely, nothing is selling in our burb neighborhood right now...and pricing dropping. Anecdotal for sure, and not Manhattan or Brooklyn if that is where your son lives...but sure wish it would happen here!!!!!

man, yall eat some nasty?

While I agree with most of this, I do think we need this to play out a few more weeks in terms of the death rate. I am really hoping it stays where we are today. Cause then it truly is back to 90% normal.

well, think all of us having been in a lot and game for 10 hours helps out the " taste" of @Hammered a Lot wings! To say nothing of adult beverages! If I am going to take time to double fry, i do this method https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/01/ultimate-extra-crispy-double-fried-confit-buffalo-wings.html I posted recipe for Korean Wings upthread..i like that version way more the BonChon version, give it a shot And i dont think a place that does the volume the BarBill can double fry..way to much time and too much time to flip table!

majority do not...and i doubt you can find a restaurant anywhere that does...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/29/chesapeake-energy-fracking-pioneer-files-for-bankruptcy-owing-9bn Just of note, more debt than Exxon and Chevron combined.

same wings as you are used to...no mutated chicken species! Here is the deal.."Buffalo Wings= fried once, no batter, thrown is some sauce once fried to doneness. Korean Fried Wing..cornstarch and flour based batter, fried twice, extra crispy..asian based sauce with gochujang, soy, ginger etc. Gochujang is a fabulous ingrediant in lots of stuff by the way. Korean fried chicken is same process using all parts of the chicken, not just wings.

did oyu actually read the article? His distance smelling is a bit off...man, lets keep everyone in lockdown and schools closed cause one dude cant smell bacon from 50 metres. What an asshat headline, and people wonder why the media cant be trusted

I will weigh in..i don't think there is any doubt positive cases have spiked in hot spot areas. To argue against that would be not following the numbers. If you claim to want to be numbers based , the numbers say there is a massive increase in positive cases in the hotspot states. Having said that, according to this newspapers website, a least in Florida, hospitalizations have not tracked with that surge. Deaths is a huge lagging indicator, so i dont think that is a good barometer for at least another 7-10 days. https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/06/24/two-charts-show-positive-trends-for-florida-in-coronavirus-battle/ But i have also seen a graph, which i could not find, where hospitalizations in Texas have corresponded directly with the huge increase in positive cases. It is something that bears watching, and to dismiss is just folly in my mind. And if you know my bent, it is this a virus that affects the elderly..but damn these case increases and positivity rate are worrisome numbers

Fine, just let us pay no taxes then...i am sure all DC residents be fine with that. No thank you on the MD idea..lived there for a spell..DRM for a reason LOL This is just blatantly false, been an issue since i moved to DC in 87

If i were the NFL, i would have everyone that will come into contact with players or even be in the facility tested now...and then set up some kind of structured testing process. And we as a country need sports, and there are tons of tests available now..should not be an issue So here is a good article about that..smart to be catching these early. No one requiring hospitalization, 50% asymptomatic...bright side says 20 some positives not out there spreading the virus...football is saving lives! https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/26/clemson-says-14-more-football-players-test-positive-for-virus-total-now-at-37/

This account has been very good with the numbers. The premise is not that elevated temps get counted as positive tests, more the fact that elevated temp is a symptom of Covid, and therefore the tests are, of course, yielding higher positive numbers..affecting positivity rates. Agreed critical to know how many/much this is happening. The positive test rate scares me prolly more than the actual case numbers, as that indicates with 100% certainty that increase in testing is not why cases are skyrocketing in places, more people are getting Covid. But if that rate is increasing due to reasons like this, or better contract tracing etc, those data points are important to know as well Yes, i think it is close to 9000..very worrisome. Hospitalizations and death rates have not increase at same rate since 06/01, but damn that doubles cases from just yesterday. That can not be good in any shape or form.

you and me both brother..that account had graphs that take me twenty minutes to figure out what he is saying

I think what he is saying 956 get their temp taken everyday...people with elevated temp above a certain number are given a PCR test. Of those people, 18% actually had the virus. So while 956 were screened, the 103 given tests were already showing a symptom..therefore it would increse positive test rates, which is just as, or more scary than just pure cases ...and has been increases steadily in the hot spot states