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Yeah, because EVERY coach who flames out in their first stint wins 3 SB's the 2nd time around.

The Giants did not "stop us knowing we would run". Before the last play we were not close to FG range - Thurman ran 10+ yards on a draw w/ no timeouts. It was a really ballsy playcall. Also, we didn't get our asses kicked for the entire game like the Colts did.

It means it contributed to their 6-2 (now 8-2) road record and our 4-4 home record. Yeah, Steve Smith is good at football.

Why does it matter? Goings is just as good. Steve Smith is good at football.

It was bad this weekend, but I don't know why people are acting as if it's something new. Doesn't anybody remember the 1998 wildcard hosejob in Miami? That same day TO's game winning catch vs. GB only happened because of an obvious Jerry Rice fumble that was ruled incomplete about 2 plays earlier. I guess it's getting more publicity now that guys like Salisbury are going nuts. I mean - I guess it's good to hear people on national TV call out these incompetent fools, but where were they 8 years ago?

The Steelers recovered the ball anyway.

He got there 3 times with a worst team than what Peyton has. Worst analogy ever.

Vanderjet is pathetic - he also shanked a game winner vs. Miami in the 2000 playoffs, so he's missed the 2 biggest kicks of his life both in perfect weather.

I want to feel the same way, I really do, but I dunno... Every NFL coach not named Steve Spurrier puts in like 18 hour days, so in the long run I don't know how much it matters that he's a Bills fan.

He sucks less than Haslett.

Yeah, haha. It's been fun getting enormous credit from the media and losing for 5 years, but get used to getting bashed on a regular basis. Hopefully that criticism is accompanied by winning. You would think ESPN would at least pretend to be a little more subtle about their blatant butt buddy relationship with TD.

I was rooting for NE tonight (probably the only reason they lost) just for next week's entertainment purposes. The championship games are going to suck hard next week now. Another Broncos-Colts blowout? Horray. Seahawks vs. whoever? Yawn.

Please ignore my previous post in this thread as well. That fade pattern was 10x worse than anything Mularkey called all year.

This is suprising?

Because there's better than a snowball's chance in hell. If I was more motivated I would link threads re: Gibbs & Saban "They're NEVER going to _". Snowballs chance in hell would be somebody like Jimmy Johnson, who would never go to someplace cold, ever. Schottenheimer is fighting with the Chargers front office, likes Buffalo, used to play here, he's not a big city guy having been in KC & Cleveland, he moves around a lot, etc. IMO we'd have better than a snowballs chance in hell to get him if Ralph made an effort. I would take Payton among that group by default. Sherman is one of the worst gameday coaches in the league. I saw him try to give away a game vs. Minnesota last year by going for it on 4th down when they were up by 14 in the 4th Qtr and could've kicked a makable FG with a good kicker - it damn near cost them the game. Other times I've seen him chicken out when it was clear going for it was correct, like the playoff game in Philly when he punted on 4th&1 from the Eagles 40 when Ahman Green had 200 yards rushing. Bill Simmons wrote a few years ago that "he's one of the three coaches in the NFL I think I could outcoach in a 3 hour span along with Greg Williams and Dave Wandsteadt". I pretty much agree with that. Cottrell is no good - the Jets defense sucked under him and has gotten much better since his departure with basically the same players. The Vikings defense underachieved as well, though they finally started to play well towards the end of the year. Gray - you've got to be kidding me. Haslett - good choice if you like penalties & turnovers. As I've said 1,000 times I give him a mulligan for this year. Still has a sub .500 record at home with above average talent on both sides of the line of scrimmage....and he's going to win with the Bills trenches? Right. Martz - C'mon, he makes Greg Williams look like Tuna in managing a clock. I read an SI article that described his players begging him to run the ball in the SB vs. NE's dime defense and he literally said "F- that, we're going to win my way". No thanks. I would probably take Fassel over all of these guys because I watched a lot of Giants games when he was there and he was a lot like Wade IMO - his teams dominated games statistically and got killed by turnovers, special teams & bad officiating. If April is maintained the special teams shouldn't be a factor, and bad officiating will be a factor no matter who is coaching Buffalo, so that's moot. He also did a good job vs. the Eagles & division foes. Anyway, I've posted all this stuff like 100 times over and nobody has ever responded, so whatever.

You suck at posting

We all know Vermeil never comes out of retirement, having approached Charles Barkley's record of most times retired. Ferentz is going to leave Iowa within 3 years if you don't think so you're fooling yourself. It just sucks for us that he would never come to Buffalo because the organization is such a disaster. Marty rumors are being discussed - stranger things have happened. Individually none are likely but collectively it wouldn't be the biggest shock ever if Ralph shelled out some cash to get 1 of these guys. Please continue with your lame Junior High straw-man humor though.

Read much?

Yeah, I'm just saying I don't like it.

What are you talking about? Why are you apparantly trying to refute something Robert never said? Is this supposed to be funny or clever? I don't understand these posts.

I would've voted him coach of the year.

Exactly - Mularkey & Williams most likely failed because they're not good at coaching, not because they were 1st time coaches.

Worst post ever. Why the clutter? You suck at starting threads.

Vermeil, Schottenheimer, or Ferentz. Those may not be realistic, but that's who I want to coach the Bills to answer your question.

You're a solid poster but c'mon dude - You're not the first one to point this out. Really, you're not. For every Belichick there are dozens of washouts who flamed out in their 2nd job as well as their first. I mean - lets draft a backup QB from Michigan in the 6th round and just assume he becomes a Hall of Famer while we're at it.