dave mcbride
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Heres where he is wrong.
After Next season the only player on that list that becomes a free agent is Nate.
The rest are free agents after the 2006 season.
And I really hope this Shelton deal gets done, because I don't want to go into next season with Jason Peters as our starting LT.
this is right about a lot, however. also recall that 3 of jennings' 4 sacks allowed came against the jets at the meadowlands when jennings was clearly out of it due the cheap shot concussion he suffered in the NE game the previous week. the next time they played the jets, he didn't give up any sacks and abraham had something like 1 tackle all game. the offensive line continues to be a major problem, and has been so ever since will wolford went to the colts on a technicality. up until now, the bills have not addressed it. in fact, the one bills offensive lineman who performed better than his draft ranking has now left for the greener pastures of SF just as he was coming into his own. i'm not saying he's worth that kind of money (although the reported 13 million bonus sounds bogus to me - note that it's divided into pieces). the position has not been addressed yet, and i for one will not be optimistic if the best we can do is a) jason peters, b) trey teague, or c) the #50 pick overall in the draft. it'll be a long season if that happens, folks.
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I stand by exactly what I said. The same people who are most eager to downplay the value of our existing players are usually the same people who are so hot for someone they have never seen play but read about on a website or a draft board.
And amazingly, I am not buying a 3 negative to 1 positive ratio as some sort of statistically significant sample of opinions on this board.
However, I do appreciate you calling me "man" rather than "dude".
you're right. he's not spectacular, but he's solid, makes a decent number of plays, and STAYS HEALTHY!!! he also doesn't screw up, and is never a liability. he deserves what he gets.
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Unfortunately, he is having some success. Smith went out of his way to torch Ralph after he and Butler "bolted". For what? Wanting to win? Calling his GM every day? No question whatsoever that he and Butler had the Chargers jobs lined up way ahead of time, and that burns myass. Then to have to listen to that arrogant prik Smith tooting his horn coming into the playoffs, I was actually glad to see the JETS bounce that jagoff.
badol, i agree with you about 95% of the time, but you're letting your loathing of butler/aj cloud your judgment. look, i'm a booster of ralph, but never forget how ralph's background (essentially a spoiled rich kid who never had to work a day in his life for something that wasn't inherited) and how he operated the team from about 1970 up through the mid 1980s. the whole rich stadium deal was really, really ugly(circa 1972 thru the late 1970s), as you may know ...
as for butler, gimme a break. he didn't want to stay, and he left for big, big money that ralph never would have payed him. he fulfilled his contractual duties with the bills and did the best he could while he was here (regardless of what you think of his performance).
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Even though he left on less than perfect terms, congratulations AJ!
I met AJ once at a St. Francis HS game & he seems like a really nice guy. My friend who teaches there had a minor heart attack a couple of years ago & one of the 1st get well messages that he got was in an envelope with the San Diego Chargers return address-It was from AJ Smith.
i'm a big fan of a.j. good for him!
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disagree - i may be wrong, but when a guy visits the donohoe-era bills and leaves without an offer (and the lack of an offer is publicly announced), the history has been that there's no chance of him signing with the bills. i could be wrong in this case, but that's been the history ...
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I remember a time when Marangi went in for (if memory serves) an injured Kemp. The Bills were up by 10 or so, and my father had money on the Bills minus a few points. Marangi came in and did something like throw six passes, five of which were picked, two of which were returned for TDs, and the Bills ended up losing the game.
My father turns to me (I was 12 or 13 at time) and said "Son, the only thing good about that quarterback is he's Italian. And I'm kinda embarrassed about that fact."
he came in for fergy, not kemp. jack was long gone before gary m arrived in buffalo ...
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gary marangi, 1976:
games- 11; completions - 82; attempts - 232; completion pct. - 35.3; yards - 998; yards per passing play - 4.3; TDs - 7; Ints - 16
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Didn't like: The Raiders franchised a lousy player, and now they might be stuck with him. His name is Charles Woodson, and his last great game was in Ann Arbor eight years ago. The Raiders, clearly trying to get some fish to bite on Woodson, franchised him before free agency began, meaning if a team wanted him, the team would have to trade the Raiders up to two first-round picks for him. (Oakland, certainly, would take less, because the guy has played so inconsistently as a pro.) But Woodson, as I said last week, surprised the Raiders by signing the franchise tender offer of $10.5 million.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writ...ing/03/07/mmqb/
gimme a break. woodson has had a couple of terrific, pro-bowl level season with the raider since joining them in 98. typical king ...
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Why on earth would we trade Clements? He is probably one of the top 5 CB's in the NFL and isn't even 25 years old. Plus he doesn't get hurt and plays the run. If he is looking for ridiculous money, franchise him every year until he signs a long term contract. I can't think of another CB I would rather have for this team.
agreed -- why on earth are people so willing to get rid of arguably the best player on the team??
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more than that -- they have an average 7-9 record this millennium. at any rate, here are teams that i think have superior rosters to the bills. forget the cap; that's irrelevant to the season at hand (and that's really how people should think about the nfl):
NE
jets
steelers
ravens
indy
SD
raiders (call me crazy, but i see them winning at least 11 games next year)
denver
philly
atlanta
GB (assuming favre stays)
minnesota
seattle (despite the fact that the bills crushed them this year)
I really do respect your opinion,db, but seriously, if you were the owner of a team, you would chose the chargers, and denver, and the raiders, and the vikings over the Bills in the short and near and long term?
Again, I am not saying who may win more games in 2005. I am saying who would you really want now and short term and long term. I really can't believe someone would want the vikings roster and salary cap and coaches over the bills right now.
dog, i respect your opinion greatly as well, but i've given up on long-term planning (meaning more than 2 years) in the nfl. i've come to think about the league as a fairly short term thing, filled with lots of moving parts and where teams can completely rebuild units and get past any cap consequences within 2 years. for instance, come opening day 2007, i'd be really surprised if vincent, milloy, clements, sam adams, fletcher, ron edwards (the starter right now, as i understand it) and posey were still playing for the bills. that's over half the defense. as for the offense, i don't think anyone here would wager that anyone on the bills offensivel line will be here come september 2007 (the one really steady guy, villarrial, is going to be an old-timer by then). anyway, the bills aren't by any means a terrible team, but i see them as a middle-of-the-pack good team that needs to get the qb and o-line positions solved once and for all. it's been too long, and has really hamstrung the team. if losman is the answer, that'll go a long way toward changing my opinion. however, he has to show me something first.
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Not only do I not want to trade Nate, who really came on as a complete player the second half of the year, and I was always one of his biggest critics... BUT... please tell me of a team that is going to trade something of value for him that still has 17 million bonus money and 40 million to sign him to an extension. They're surely not going to trade a #1 for a guy with one year on his contract only to see him walk looking for the best deal.
minnesota vikings?
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Simmons was having a terrific year on an otherwise woeful Seachicken defense before his injury. I'm wondering if they released him because he's not recovering?
I'd take Sharper over Posey anyday. Simmons is a no brainer if he can pass a physical but I don't think we can afford him.
darin - when i see something like this, i have to wonder: is something else up? does seattle know something we plebes don't? of course, they probably do. that said, the seahags ponied up a lot of money to their stars and probably had to release some people to make things manageable. however, if the guy was that good, that doesn't make sense unless they know some medical stuff.
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brandon, you're one of my favorite posters here, but i beg to differ that the vikes overpaid. when winfield was in there, they were an nfl caliber defense. when he was hurt, they were cfl level. and he didn't hurt their cap situation. winfield was sensational this year. how was he not worth the money, especially when he didn't cause the team to refuse going after other players or cutting their own??
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more than that -- they have an average 7-9 record this millennium. at any rate, here are teams that i think have superior rosters to the bills. forget the cap; that's irrelevant to the season at hand (and that's really how people should think about the nfl):
NE
jets
steelers
ravens
indy
SD
raiders (call me crazy, but i see them winning at least 11 games next year)
denver
philly
atlanta
GB (assuming favre stays)
minnesota
seattle (despite the fact that the bills crushed them this year)
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role of a lifetime for jeff bridges. he'll never top it.
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True, and fair enough. Definitely, 95% of the players in the NFL misses games or several games over the years. There is also no question, however, that some guys have a tendency to get hurt that have nothing to do with their heart or their toughness. Jim McMahon comes to mind. Jonas seems to be one of those guys. He has missed time each year he has been with the Bills I believe. He is often face down on the field and needs assistance and later comes back. I do not question Jennings heart as some do. I do question spending all that money on a guy who seemingly plays 75% of his games. He's missed 11 outright in four years, and large chunks of several more, including the above mentioned Jets game. To me, his has missed an entire year of his four, and it would be different if he just got one season long ending injury, like, say, your example of Evans. It's more like he plays four, misses one, plays six, misses two, plays three misses one, plays five misses two, etc.
i am in complete agreement that he's not worth that much money. my only point was is that claims that he's injury prone are exaggerated. i guess it's all about what injury prone means -- does a player lose dribs and drabs of time to relatively minor injuries, or does he lose large periods of time sandwiched between consistently showing up for duty? some guys will miss 2 entire seasons in an 8 year career, but play 16 games in 5 of the other 6. i guess with jennings you're pretty much banking on him losing 2-3 games every year and never being a 16 game guy. that said, he doesn't get the big injuries (yet, at least).
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It's hard to say what is exaggerated and what isn't. This last year, for example, he started and played against the jets with a slight concussion and got schooled by Abraham for three sacks I think. He even admitted that he was foggy and he probably shouldn't have played at all. That is officially a game started but in actuality was a game missed due to injury. He's had a lot of nagging and significant injuries.
so does almost everyone in the nfl, dog. even an iron man like bledsoe lost time in 01 for a while. there are very, very few guys in the nfl who don't miss time. just look at jennings' former colleagues on the bills offense (excepting bledsoe):
campbell - missed half the season
villarrial - a 16 gamer
teague - missed 4 games last year
moulds - ok this year, but lost significant time to injury in both 99 and 03.
reed - missed 4 games this year
evans - 16 games, but missed season 2 years ago with acl.
mcgahee - nuff said
henry - missed significant time in 01, 03, and 04
tucker/pucillo/other guy - not sure
m. williams - missed 6 games in 3 years (3 last year, 1 this year)
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Which is no surprise, since it was a contract year. I distinctly remember Ruben Brown screaming at him on the sideline for this very thing. It's not a fallacy and it won't surprise me at all if "Hangnail" Jennings makes regular appearances in the Bay Area now that he has a fat contract.
no offense, but this is argument by anecdote, meaning taking one example (of which none of us really know what was said) and extrapolating that into a defining element of one's character. i don't buy it.
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i just did some checking.
in three seasons, mike williams has played in 42 out of 48 games (average of 14 per season). in four season, jennings played in 52 out of 64 (13 per season). Since 1999, trey teague has played in 78 out of 96 games (13 per season). villarrial has played in 132 out of 144 games (just under 15/season).
Damn greedy Ravens
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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it's called annual manipulation of the cap. what you have in buffalo is the annual cry of cap poverty when the simple fact of the matter is that the cap can easily be tweaked to accommodate new players. i'm not saying donohoe is wrong to play it the way he has, but it should be stressed that his cap poverty BS is a smokescreen. when the team makes the playoffs, i'll cut him a little more slack.