dave mcbride
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well, at least I've got you to stop championing the tennessee defense!
also remember that miami's offense played pretty well that game. the bills gained over 400 yards (the only team to do so that year, i think), but miami gained 352 and marino had a very productive day. mare missed a 26 yard field goal as well.
look we can argue about stats all we want, but you and i watched both of those games. the bills offense was thrilling that day in miami, but were killed by the turnovers. moulds had a career day 9 catches for 240 yards. also the bills probably would have had 21 if not for the absolutely braindead penalty by reed at the goal line. in tennessee, the bills offense looked like utter crap the entire game except for that one drive spurred by that 50 yard run by antowain smith and that last drive in which johnson played very, very well. the miami defense was clearly the superior foe, though.
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you're forgetting about 2002. in 2001, they were 3rd overall with him as OC, and 4th overall in 2002. they fell to the middle of the pack in 2003.
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Outside of his first year in Pittsburgh(Same goes for Buffalo), the guy was a fuggin moron in terms of play calling.
The issues he had there, he is having here.
You recall the Jets-Steelers game in 2003, snow covered game, Instead of opting to run the ball against a weak Jets defense in bad conditions, Steelers throw down field all game, and of course lose.
Steelers fans wanted him gone after the 2003 season, He was criticized greatly for his overusage of trick plays there, they were fed up, ol whitey came to the rescue.
um, the steelers went 10-5-1 in 2002 with tommy freaking maddox at qb. doing that is hall of fame worthy, in my book. they were 4th overall in yards that year after finishing 3rd overall in 2001 (the year they went 13-3).
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almost, but not quite. parcells' pats with DB at the helm won their last 7 regular season games of 1994 after starting out 3-6.
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as long as you are pointing out the facts... what was the home record of the Titans in '99 and '00? What is the correlation between turnovers and wins in the NFL playoffs? Who played LT for the '99 Bills playoff edition? What does your definition of "light up" mean? 17 points?
That;s what I thought... don't let ALL the facts get in the way, though.
facts:
flutie was 21-36 for 360 yards (10 yds/pass play) with 1 td and 1 int and 4 rushes for 29 yards. he also lost a fumble on a sack by trace armstrong.
that year, miami was 7-1 at home and their only loss was a squeaker to the jets.
as for their defense, they were 3rd overall, led the league in INTs, and were 6th in TD passes allowed.
and whoever was playing tackle for the bills that day surely wasn't much better than the guys lining up in 1999 notwithstanding any hobbling. actual pocket awareness on the part of the qb tends to make those '98 guys look better, though.
call me crazy, but given the circumstances, that looks like lighting them up to me.
johnson was 10-22 for 131 yards and was sacked in the endzone, which of course resulted in points for TN.
TN, which was 8-0 at home (pretty much a wash compared to the dolphins), was 26th in pass defense, 27th in ypa given up, 27th in TD passes allowed, and 17th in interceptions. they were 18th overall in defense.
those are the facts, actually.
p.s. 2000 was a different season.
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From PastaBEllys inside tip sheet.
Keep the St. Louis Rams in mind as a possible landing spot for Tom Donahoe if the Buffalo Bills, as rumors indicate, fire the team president and general manager. In a meeting last Saturday with owner Ralph Wilson, it appeared Donahoe, a close friend of ESPN and ESPN.com, exited in pretty good shape. But that was before the Bills squandered a 21-0 lead in Miami. The loss was a pretty damning one and the dismal situation was then exacerbated by coach Mike Mularkey's awkward handling of the suspension of wide receiver Eric Moulds.
he's gone.
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Because Wilson has always been a meddling owner behind the scenes. This puts the best spin on it for the public. Ralph looks like he is giving everyone their say and making the final decision, which is probably fairly accurate. Even though there wasn't really any other realistic outcome than what happened: Moulds suspended for one game for actions detrimental to the team.
indeed, you are right about his very meddlesome nature. i would add that he always meddles more when a change is in the works.
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Whoever made the decision made the RIGHT decision at the time. Our favorite little man, Skin Flutie, was sucking up a storm and I don't believe we would have had a chance in that game with him at the helm. Remember Skin has NEVER EVER won a playoff game in the NFL...and the year before, gave away a game in Miami that would have put us into the playoffs (if I recall correctly). RJ played like crap in that game...but, in a Flutie-esque 4th Q drive put the Bills ahead...and that should have been that.
With that said, Fu#k Flitie, Fu#k RJ and Fu#k Bum's Kid while you're at it.
whatever. it's not as if flutie didn't light up miami's top ranked pass d like a christmas tree that game while johnson played like utter crap for 55 minutes against the 25th ranked pass d the following year. don't let facts get in the way, though.
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It's a poorly veiled excuse that Moulds didn't practice and wouldn't be available for the game on Sunday. In fact, it's utter bullshitt. If they didn't want him suspended a game he would not only be playing, he'd be starting. That was simply to put a public spin on it that I can't believe anyone is falling for.
When it's all said and done, this is really much ado about nothing. What seems to have happened is just everyone doing a couple things wrong, and then everyone trying to put the best public face on it that they can.
It certainly seems Moulds was pissed and frustrated, which he has every right to be because his time on the Bills is coming to an end and he has little to show for it. He has a right to be mad about the play-calling, I'm pretty mad about it myself. He has earned the right to somewhat be a spokesman, and he has exercised that right a lot. In fact, he was the main man who spoke out about JP and the coaches listened to him. I don't think they made the move to bench JP because of him but because they listened to him and agreed with him.
MM, on the other hand, has had a terrible year. And the losing brings out this frustration in him, too. He's trying to hang onto a sinking ship.
But Moulds has NO right to not listen to his coach, especially in a game, no matter what the circumstances are or how frustrated he is, or even how right he may be. His job is to listen to his coaches, and he's paid millions to do that and only that. So he should be suspended for refusing to go back in the game. He knows he screwed up, too, or else he would be saying he was wronged. He wasn't, he was just taking the high road now that it is over and he screwed up because he doesn't want to look like a cancer for his next team. He's doing the right thing now but he was dead wrong in the game. His punishment fit the crime.
TD, too, is letting his coach do what he has to do. Contrary to the madness around here, there is no indication that TD has ever overstepped his bounds and demanded something from his head coach. In fact, there are numerous indications he never has. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be fired, however. And he may be gone after this year because his team sucks right now.
Ralph was in somewhat of a bind, but not really. He just wants to put the best face on a bad situation. He has to back his coach, and he should. His coach was right all along on this particular issue, regardless of how much his coach has sucked ass this year. Moulds screwed up, MM wanted him suspended one game. Again, that's a punishment that fit the crime.
And Moulds should be allowed back. Moulds was the bad guy here, for refusing to go in. Ralph, TD and MM's only faults were they have sucked at their jobs lately. The fans and papers and media jumped all over MM but he did the right thing all along. He wanted Moulds suspended, he didn't blab anything to the media. He agreed to have a meeting with everyone. They settled it and now he gets back to coaching his team.
one question - why the hell was wilson mediating this and not the team president? donohoe is the most powerful person in organization history outside of wilson and he can't be delegated the responsibility of handling a measly suspension of a wide receiver with so-so production numbers who is on his way out the door come january and is playing on a team that's gone into the tank for the year?
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I totally agree with you Simon. I think a lot of people are jumping to conclusions, without knowing what really happened.
Strangely, whatever it was that happened, I guess I am in the minority in gaining some respect for Mularkey from this whole ordeal, and lost a little for RW. I think RW's "judgement" today gives some insight into what is going on at OBD. I don't recall any other team waiting for an owner to get involved on deciding whether a player gets suspended or not. Doesn't this usually fall under the domain of the coach, or at very least, the GM (not to mention president of football operations)? I think it is an indication that TD is out of the picture at this point.
That being said, I gained some respect for MM. Sal Moriana (sp?) from the Rochester paper says that MM should have let the incident involving Moulds sideline argument with Tyke Tolbert (which Moulds confirmed did happen) slide by the way side, because everyone knows Moulds is out of here at the end of the season. I say bullsh*t! MM's troubles with Moulds, and Sam Adams before him, are an indication to me, that MM knows he has a young team, that needs seasoning. He can't let guys like Moulds undedrmine his authority.
Adams and Moulds are on the downside, MM needs to start thinking about next year. He (we) have to find out if guys like Bannon, Anderson, Fred Smith, and Sam Aiken are going to be legit contributers to this team in the future (as he has come to the conclusion that Adams and Moulds will not), or just perpetual roster fodder, who catch 8 or 9 passes a year. I think Mularkey, for all the criticism being flung his way (and I admitt I have waffled on him) has really been trying to get everyone on the roster involved in the game, as Belichek is praised for in New England. His efforts may have been misguided, but I do think there is a reason for his seeming madness. At this point, it doesn't matter much if the Bills win 4 games, or 8 games. Eric Moulds or Sam Adams getting more playing time isn't going to have an impact on this team, but getting their succcessors some playing time could impact the teams future...
It sucks for guys like Adams and Moulds (and Mularkey may be wrong about them), but top players have always had trouble dealing with the winding down of their careers. I wish Moulds tenure here wasn't ending the way it is, but this kind of thing just happens in sports. Look at how much Andre Reed tarnished a really fine career, because he just couldn't see it was over. I don't know how else Mularkey could have handled it a lot better. I think the egg, in this situation, belongs on Ralph Wilsons' face, if it belongs anywhere.
good post. i generally like mularkey except for the rube goldberg machine plays (which, incidentally, never work except for bledsoe's lateral to mcgahee against seattle last year), and he had to do this. he's going to be here next year, and moulds most likely won't be. donohoe is probably gone, so mularkey has to step up and assert more authority over a young team that will be truly his next year. he's gotta see if guys can play. do i like moulds? yeah. he can still contribute, and is a far better receiver than anyone on the team not named lee evans. i also like how he handled things. so i do think that the decision reached by wilson was pretty solomon-like. he doesn't show up mularkey, and he seems to have appeased moulds.
by the way, donohoe's lack of involvement in this -- he's the *team president*, for chrissake!! -- totally spells out that he's gone. i don't think it could be any clearer. the whole thing also suggests that mularkey is gonna be around for a while. if i'm to infer anything from this, it would be that modrak will be gm, because a new gm from outside the organization will want to hire his own coach.
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We had a certain poster (who I lovingly called "Timmah" in honor of the disabled South Park character who only utters his own name - because that's who he most reminded me of) who would literally lose his mind. It happened so regularly there was rumors that the US Naval Observatory considered setting their master clock by it instead of their currently accepted atomic source.
Spectacular stuff. Truly.
that sorta vaguely rings a bell. what's the nom de guerre of said perpetrator?
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excellent point. i thought about including that one, but the bitterness and spite the following season between the two was so intense that i ended up choosing it. i felt i could only pick one.
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fire away ...
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I've been harping on that all day. Mularkey is not going to want or try to suspend a player like Moulds for a good reason, let alone a lousy reason, or no reason, as most of the RR has been speculating. I would bet anyone that Moulds did and/or said something pretty heinous, regardless of MM's coaching abilities or lackthereof.
i see your point dog, and i still sorta like mularkey. however, it's hard to divorce it from the larger context, which of course isn't mularkey's making. that context is one in which butler guys have been ridden out unceremoniously and almost always embittered. that has regularly been followed up by anonymous sources from within the bills kvetching to the national media about how those players weren't all that. they badmouthed jennings (not a butler guy, of course) to pro football weekly after he got hurt this year, ted washington for being too fat, henry jones for being a bad tackler, and even went so far as to provide the number of drops by riemersma to len pasquarelli after the 2002 season. i guess what i'm trying to say is that there is some bad vibes emanating from that place. i don't recall butler doing that sort of thing. people teased him for the fine young man stuff, but when guys like burris and thomas smith left, he at least acted like he was pained. he certainly didn't badmouth them to national beat guys like the bills current administration does.
back to my original point: i think that context is coloring this.
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Some quotes that didn't make it into print (from bb.com blog)
interesting. terrence just won the lottery, so i'd expect that from him. as for jp, something tells me he's no great friend of eric ...
Turning back the clock a bit
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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don't go there brandon - the year that flutie had in '98 was infinitely better than anything johnson put up in his truly sorry ass career stretching from usc -- where he lost 3 straight years to both nd and ucla (i was at ucla in grad school at the time) with really poor performances despite having tony boselli and, in succession, three first round picks at WR (curtis conway, johnny morton, and Keyshawn) -- to the pros.