Coach Tuesday

I read the thread. Your argument was "well then you can just let him go sign elsewhere because you've already won your Lombardi." THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED. It's one thing to discount previous examples as independent events - it's another thing to assert, without any support other than your gut instinct, that ETN is going to represent a statistical outlier the likes of which the NFL has never seen.

You did, but then you argued that previous results have no bearing on the future. And I don't see how the two positions square with each other.

But that's because a player's college or state don't have any measurable impact on their ability to perform in the NFL, usually (although there have been specific college programs, such as Mack Brown's Texas teams, that were universally bad at prepping players for being professionals). Whereas investing a premium pick on a non-premium position such as RB is a terrible cap management strategy for the many reasons already cited upthread. Your BEST CASE scenario is that ETN performs like CMC and (i) takes the ball out of Allen's hands; and (ii) requires a $15M/yr contract. Neither of those things are good for wins and losses. You pay a running back premium $$ you then have to justify it by tailoring your offense around him and that hasn't worked in the modern NFL. Let me ask you this: is it ever a good idea to spend a first round pick on a kicker or long-snapper? What if they're generationally good? The answer is, of course, no f'ing way. RB is not much different.

Sorry but that is complete nonsense. You can't look at drafting Etienne in Round 1 against other Round 1 RBs because they're completely independent events? No wonder you're bowing out of the discussion. That's just about the worst take I've ever seen.

No "dramatics." You've been invited to go back and look at the last three decades of RBs being drafted in the first round, especially picks 10-32 - the bust factor is extremely high. You've been asked to cite examples of specific 1st round backs the Bills passed on who would've helped the team win games. You've been invited to present statistical support for your take. You've declined all of this: "let me save you the trouble fellas, I'm gonna stick with my gut." Good for you, you're an American.

At least you're being honest. And you're not alone - this is pretty much where we are as a society in 2021: "I'm happy to listen to all of the evidence but I'm not going to let any of it change my gut opinion."

McDermott and Frazier don’t really put their CBs in position to give up that many TDs. Sherman may well have hit a wall, but unless his body is completely shot he would probably add value to this defense, certainly from a mental standpoint, if they could fit it financially.

H.R. Puff’n’Stuff??!?

I'm just saying, if hypothetically there were a retreat in Belize that recreated this event, I'd attend.

Is it really that hard to compose more than one stray, half-formed thought into an OP? What was the context of the quote? Do you have a link to the "article" you say it appears in? Do you have anything to add - any analysis, color, etc.? Sorry to be harsh, but we are all prisoners to the Twitterverse now, where every time someone's synapse fires, they're able to broadcast their half-digested pap to the entire world. Taking an extra couple of minutes to actually write out a coherent take should not be too much to ask if you're going to start a new thread.

So you’re saying he’s just a squirt?

Thought he washed out of the league.

Best hour of my life.

The Wade Truthers have resurfaced.

Not as far as you know.

Adding muscle mass is rarely a good idea for a running back.

Basham = Jones

Ive seen his height listed as everywhere from 6’2” to 6’5”. Wondering what he actually measures in at.

Some guy saying something? NEVER.

Miami has cut two defensive captains this offseason, McCain and Van Noy. It's a bit of an odd move for a young coach of a young team.

In a normal year Trey Smith would've gone higher. He's got a medical situation and teams are at a peculiar information disadvantage heading into this draft relative to other years. The Chiefs satisfied themselves that they could deal with the medicals, good for them and it may work out. I understand the Bills' reluctance.

For years the Bills have treated the draft like a hole-filling exercise and it has never worked out. Ever. The strategy this year was simple: BPA at premium positions. You seem to be complaining that they didn't reach for a lower-level cornerback or center instead of a higher-rated pass rusher or tackle prospect. That kind of approach is what has demonstratively failed for this franchise for decades. If the worst thing that comes out of the last two drafts is that they end up with too many good young d-line prospects in a couple of years, that would be an amazing problem to have.

They trust their coaches, their culture, and their player development program. Previous Bills' regimes have squandered raw, athletic prospects because of a terrible development environment. Fans simplistically look at draft picks that didn't pan out and assume the problem was scouting - but sometimes it's a failure of player development, not selection. The Bills finally have a structure in place that helps athletes reach their full potential. It's refreshing.

So you're saying next time, you'd prefer that Spence throw a smaller man through a table?