Joe Ferguson forever

either he wants a civil war or he likes the idea of prison.

I thought the man bun and fingernail polish would give me away....kidding. but I did wear a ton of facial bronzer.

I voted today. Seemed a D crowd but that's a guess. Saw one D I know well. There was an R " poll watcher" who let us know he was an R. He seemed surprised when we let him know we are D's.

I don't see the adjusted results reported anywhere except by Julie Kelly and those that copied her post nearly verbatim. Are you aware of any reports that confirm her data? @B-Man apparently didn't do his own research on this or at least didn't post his results.

I'd rather meet Miss Liberty. I'll bet she's there to make the board meetings more fun.

This was perfectly timed. How did you know Bundy would go there? Maybe the name "Bundy"?🤔 yes, apparently she does pr. I'm thinking she's probably a looker. Right after her is a Russian....just saying. and then there's this guy: Tim Groseclose is the Marvin Hoffenberg Professor of American Politics at UCLA. He holds appointments in the political science and economics departments at the university. In 1987, he received his B.S. in Mathematical Sciences from Stanford University. In 1992, he received his PhD from Stanford’s Graduate School of Business. He is the author of over two dozen scholarly articles as well as the book Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind. Maybe he posts on PPP.

Yes, veeery objective and likely to consider both sides of an argument🤫. pure coincidence that their president and research director were both quoted in the same article by Julie Kelly.

"I know you are but what am I?" show me the money!!! where are the independent sources that support Julie Kelly's serious accusations? ya'll have the same playbook: produce misinformation and spread it like wildfire. What she said could be true or it very well could be wrong but that doesn't stop the deep state MAGAs in the propaganda silos.

we don't know that there was from what I'm seeing. NY post says "apparent revision". I don't see any official FBI revision. pls link. I'd be interested in reading from the source. Just for whites and giggles, peruse th site responsible for the "expert" quotes https://crimeresearch.org/about/

Uh huh. except they provide no proof or link to the "revisions". These experts are obviously part of the same gun pushing think tank. they clearly have an agenda. More on Lott: Lott is a prolific author for both academic and popular publications. He has published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed academic journals and written ten books, including “More Guns, Less Crime,” “The Bias Against Guns,” and “Freedomnomics.” His most recent books are “Dumbing Down the Courts: How politics keeps the smartest judges off the bench” and “Gun Control Myths.”

So the answer is "no", you didn't bother to look. shocked, I tell ya! cool. and next time produce a meaningful argument. I'm sure julie kelly and her ilk very occasionally engage in honest debate.

did you bother to look at the source for this article: "The apparent stealth edit to the bureau’s statistics, first reported by RealClearInvestigations, shows that the raw number of violent crime incidents — including murders, assaults and rapes — rose to 1,256,671 in 2022 from 1,197,930 in 2021, an increase of 4.9%." most of the rest of the "article" is verbatim from Julie Kelly. at least they used the word apparent. ya'll are sad. but go do your own research...This guy is the president of "Crime prevention research center" mentioned in the piece: CPRC was founded by Dr. John R. Lott, Jr., an economist and a world-recognized expert on guns and crime. During the Trump administration, he served as the Senior Advisor for Research and Statistics in the Office of Justice Programs and then the Office of Legal Policy in the U.S. Department of Justice. Lott has held research or teaching positions at various academic institutions, including the University of Chicago, Yale University, the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford University, UCLA, and Rice University, and was the chief economist at the United States Sentencing Commission during 1988-1989. Dr Moody is also on the board..One might even conclude that this article originated at this "center". .you figure it out. dumb, dumb,dumber

Link them. I only see far right sites so I suppose it depends on how you define "news". Just checked 3 articles in other right wing publications. They all quote RCI (Julie Kelly) article. Also use NCSV numbers as the gold standard. If you can be bothered to analyze the data, look up NCSV. This is how maga works: somebody publishes bs and then the other sites republish it as if the original article was gospel. slimy f'ers.

Carl Moody is a professor of Economics at William and Mary. Not sure how his expertise translates to crime statistics or of his political affiliation. One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. hmmmm https://www.wm.edu/as/cams/applied-statistics/faculty/moody-c.php And I'm sure saint Julie has no intention of misleading by her title "real clear investigations"... This paper gives some insight into Carl Moody's politics: https://crimeresearch.org/2023/07/is-there-a-policy-that-reduces-mass-public-shooting-deaths/

The "cryptic message" Julie Kelly cites in this report https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/UCR_Summary_of_Crime_in_-Nation_2023.pdf is so cryptic that I couldn't find it. perhaps one of you Julie Kelly followers can'provide the page. Alternatively, starting on page 30, the document discusses methodology in detail and might help even MAGA's understand that the numbers are not nor can ever be, absolute. Julie Kelly again proving how sleazy and dishonest she is...

btw, who is responsible for "Realclear investigation"? One might assume it's part of realclear politics. Nope, it's Julie Kelly. not misleading at all... https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/authors/julie_kelly/

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics here are the latest official FBI numbers (9/24). Interesting your cited article does not show a comparison of numbers between the years, revised or not). Here's the latest 2022 numbers: https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2022-crime-in-the-nation-statistics

Dude, the first article I posted cited FBI numbers. This one links FBI numbers as well as other sources (The FBI numbers are local law enforcement numbers collated and summarized). Not surprising that you didn't read the first link (and very likely won't read this): https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/trumps-bogus-attack-on-fbi-crime-statistics/. You are either unwilling or unable to analyze the available data (or both). unsurprisingly, your "argument" is very similar to trump's: Time National Politics Reporter Eric Cortellessa, April 12: Violent crime is going down throughout the country. There was a 6% drop in— Trump: I don’t believe it. Cortellessa: You don’t believe that? Trump: Yeah, they’re fake numbers. Cortellessa: You think so? Trump: Well it came out last night. The FBI gave fake numbers. Cortellessa: I didn’t see that, but the FBI said that there was a 13% drop [in homicides] in 2023. Trump: I don’t believe it. No, it’s a lie. It’s fake news. Cortellessa: Sir, these numbers are collected by state and local police departments across the country. Most of them support you. Are they wrong? Trump: Yeah. Last night. Well, maybe, maybe not. The FBI fudged the numbers and other people fudged numbers. There is no way that crime went down over the last year. There’s no way because you have migrant crime. Are they adding migrant crime? Or do they consider that a different form of crime? Cortellessa: So these local police departments are wrong? Trump: I don’t believe it’s from the local police. What I saw was the FBI was giving false numbers. There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed.

I'm not wrong and could link more data but you'd just reply that it's untrue with a wave of your hand and nothing to back up your contention...it's what MAGAs do. I need a translation. my digital language translator doesn't understand either No. thoughtful liberals look at data and real research with an objective eye. If the data data is questioned or questionable, thoughtful people investigate further, look at other sources, look at methodology, look at sample size etc. In effect, analyze it.

Yes, we know. Despite what orange fascist says, we don't live in a vacuum. We rely on the rest of the world for many things. But please continue. For the few who don't already know, we get a glimpse inside the "thinking"{ of the typical MAGA.

uh huh. I see inflation. I also know that its origin was covid and the huge stimulus that was spent to keep the economy afloat. I also know that we did much better, with a lower inflation rate, than most countries in the world. There is no truth! Facts don't exist! I'm a MAGA!!!! But whatever trump says is true except when obvious lies are "misinterpreted".

of course. you don't believe data that doesn't align with your narrative but believe proven serial liar trump. wtf is wrong with you?

yes, we know. Who needs data? Who needs facts? MAGA!!! We just say it 3 times and it becomes true...at least in OUR minds.

authoritarian communist to be more exact. in fairness, tommy eyerolls is likely not into ideology, like most MAGAs.. It's about making sure government benefits them and not groups they don't approve of.

English please. Stimy funds? corporatist economy? It's called capitalism. Are you a closet socialist?