Billz4ever

Then you have no concept of economic development. Too cold for people yet they had the SB in Minneapolis, where it gets colder than Buffalo. And like I said, sounds like your goal here is simply to try and poo poo the idea rather than contribute anything constructive.

Why is that? It's a model that has been repeated proven all over the country for years, not just for Domes/retractable roofs. Large indoor venues in general.

And if Buffalo had a venue like this that could host events year round, Hotel chains would be falling all over themselves to build around it. This is already a well-established economic development model. And that article is now a decade old. Pretty sure that number for Buffalo has increased by itself anyway.

That makes no sense considering Josh on average attempts way more passes than Lamar does in the first place. Lamar only played in 12 games last year, so I'll use 2020 instead. Lamar had 382 attempts on the season. Josh had 572...nearly 200 more attempts. You've drawn conclusions not supported by the actual situation. That literally makes the case for a dome/retractable roof because then the State and County are getting more use out of it then rather than just sinking hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into an open air football stadium.

You said it was too cold, dude. I'm just going to disregard everything else after that since it was such a ridiculous comment. But you apparently also do not understand that if Buffalo were to have a venue like that, which could host events year-round, hotel chains would literally be falling all over themselves to build hotels around it.

Why do people keep saying this? This is a nonsensical argument. If Buffalo had a venue like that, which could host events year-round, more hotels would be built around it.

The state and the county are kicking in a combined $850M already. If the Pegula's wanted one, they could make it happen. Terry Pegula has a net worth of $6.7B.

This time? No, I don't believe so.

No, it's an open air stadium. There will be some protection from the elements with overhangs, but not like a dome or retractable roof.

Too cold? Come again? You do understand that's the purpose of an enclosed stadium, correct? Super Bowl LII between the Eagles and Pats was literally in Minneapolis @U.S. Bank Stadium, my guy. And you understand that having a venue where more events could be held in the cold season would lead to more hotels being built. It sounds like you're trying to find excuses simply to not have one rather than giving real, valid reasons.

You have no proof that it helped either. And FYI, you once again suggested it was the weather in Buffalo, not the talent of those team that was the reason we won. Insulting. We had players having to seek medical attention in Miami from the heat and had to come out of the game. Where have you ever seen the visiting team falling out because it was too cold or some other nonsense you are suggesting the imaginary weather advantage gives us here?

There's always those resistant to change and this is just another example. Nevermind what it would do for the community. It's always the nostalgia and letting go of something that actually works against our team in reality, but heaven forbid we decide that we don't need to freeze our butts off to watch a football game any longer. And not having the dome will ensure that more hotels aren't built. You have to start somewhere, fella. I don't think you even know what you're saying because what you just said above is saying it gives us an advantage (which it really doesn't). Hating the weather doesn't mean you can't play in it. 112 degrees in the sun on our sideline in Miami is an actual advantage. Hating the weather in Buffalo is not. If it's giving us an advantage that you say we need to keep, you're saying we need it to win. If you're saying we don't need it to win, then you should have no objection to a dome. It's pretty simple logic here.

Disagree. Just between the state and the county, they are kicking in $850M. If the goal going in was to build a dome, that would've been higher. You don't even realize what you're doing, but I find it pretty insulting to the HOFers and other players we've had come through here to suggest we need to the weather to be able to win, making it sound like we didn't have the talent on our teams to do it otherwise. Pretty sad actually.

Disagree. Considering what the Pegula's were able to talk the State into kicking in, they could've made it happen. Would've made the Pegula's open their wallet and pay more, but funding really isn't the issue. It's the desire to do it. Wait, so now you're suggesting we need to play outside so we have some imaginary advantage in order to win? LMAO I think we're still waiting for you to name the games we won specifically because we played outside in bad weather and it gave us the advantage. And FYI, the Super Bowl is always played in locations were it's assumed weather will not be a factor, so it's a true test of team vs team, not teams vs the weather.

And the people that don't want it don't want it for nothing other than nostalgic reasons, because if they actually cared about how our team is built and how our offense in designed, a dome is a no brainer.

It's going to impact BOTH teams as the NE game we LOST clearly demonstrated last season. You must be confusing Allen for Jim Kelly since we don't have much history with Allen playing in bad weather in Buffalo in Dec-Jan.

Exactly, that's why I don't understand the thinking of all these "purists" that think were not the Bills if we're not playing in the cold, snow, and wind in Dec-Jan, apparently completely oblivious to the fact that those conditions are not great for our style of offense whatsoever.

And that's because we play outside? LMAO

I think they could've gotten the funding if they really wanted to this time. It would've required the Pegula's to open their wallets and take on more of the costs themselves, but considering what they were able to somehow talk the State into kicking in, I think it could've gotten done.

On the verge, eh? So, the verge is the goal? And we can thank playing outside for being on the verge for years?

And how's that gone to date? Do you understand how much revenue hosting a SB brings to a city?

Yeah, being able to host a Super Bowl in Buffalo would be great for this town, but some people think the weather here is some huge advantage. I would disagree. Maybe if we were a run heavy team, but bad weather favors the running game, not the passing game.

And no dome ensures Buffalo will never host a Super Bowl.

You can. Just like you can find a Tom Brady at the 199th pick. However, your chances of success and landing a top prospect are in the earlier rounds.

What? Then explain what he's doing with Dorsey. We have an OC literally in his first year of play calling and Allen is torching defenses. Daniel Jones manages football games. Daboll is smart enough to know he doesn't have the QB in NY to do what he did in Buffalo with Josh. Josh can literally take over a game. The two simply cannot be compared. Everyone knew going into the draft that the Josh's ceiling was the stratosphere if he could mature, work on his accuracy, and make better decisions with the ball. I attribute Josh's maturation more to Dorsey than Daboll. Dorsey played at an elite level in college and won a title, plus knew the offense inside and out. Who else would be better to help a Rookie with raw talent like that more than Dorsey?