DapperCam

Turnovers equate to 4 points for the other team? I find that actually unbelievable. Do you have a citation for that?

Cam Ward is the only QB from this draft that will be a starter in 3 years. These other guys don't have it.

Isn't the Manning kid a good runner? It was first and goal from the 1 yard line. Just sneak it 4 times in a row. Terrible play calling.

That was the one thing Ewers couldn't do to end the game, lol. Even a turnover on downs would have given them a chance for a stop and one more drive on offense.

I could just as easily see the Bills get up by 2 scores and then force Bo Nix to throw a pick pressing to make it a blowout.

We have some bad investments on the cap right now: Diggs, Von Miller, Tre White, Matt Milano, Poyer, Hyde, Floyd, Knox. Most of these are players that were an A-level talent at some point. It gets a lot better next year, especially if we release Miller and Knox. Hopefully we can acquire some more relevant A-level talent with the savings. We really are operating at a shoestring budget this year, and decided to take our cap medicine (unlike a team like the Saints).

Get a grip, you’ve lost touch with reality here.

That has never happened before AFAIK, but I appreciate your optimism. Voting has been kind of funky the past couple of years so it’s possible.

Not to mention the Ravens got a pick-6 that blew it wide open. The Ravens are front runners and don’t play as well if you can keep it close or get a lead.

Rivers also was never even 2nd team All Pro. Allen has two. Rivers was never really a top 3 QB at any time. Allen is inarguably a top 3 QB cumulatively over the past 5 seasons and also within individual seasons.

The Cowboys had 9 last year and lost in the wild card round, lol. That is half of their starters being recognized as the best in the league including their QB, and they couldn’t win.

The Broncos got 5 All Pros! That’s nearly 25% of the starters on both sides of the ball! Curious the spread is so wide with so much talent.

He didn’t even get a single All Pro vote. I don’t think I would trust the AP reporters to vote on what I should have for lunch at this point.

That has never happened before, but maybe this year will be the first time.

I think every major place is not currently accepting MVP bets. If they open it back up expect the odds to change dramatically.

Hypothetical scenario. Let’s transplant Allen and the Bills to Dallas with identical outcomes. Is there any doubt Allen would probably be winning his 2nd consecutive MVP this season? Like it or not, being in a small media market hurts. These awards are voted on by members of the media.

Like one guy called him a running back (Bill Polian) and everybody gasped at the time and told him that wasn’t cool. Feels like we can let that go by now after 3 MVPs

He can join Dan Marino as first ballot HOF QBs with zero playoff success.

Vegas has literally never had the wrong odds at the end of the season. The voters went off script.

Teams with more All Pros than the Bills: - Cincy (2) - Pittsburgh (3) - Denver (5) - Indy (2) -Jacksonville (2) - KC (4) - Baltimore (6) - New England (2) - Dallas (3) - Detroit (6) - Minnesota (3) - Philly (6) - San Fran (3) - Washington (4) And the Bills are arguably a top 3 team in the league in terms of results. Combined with the lack of Pro Bowl accolades, either: - The roster is very underrated and some guys are getting snubbed. - Allen should be the run away MVP winner with such a weak supporting cast. - Sean McDermott should be coach of the year for dragging these bums to the #2 seed, beating both #1 seeds in the process.

My comment was in response to a comment about the HOF. So cumulative stats would be more relevant there.

Fine mister pedantic. Leading or near leading…Allen leads the league in TDs since 2020 and it’s not particularly close.

If he continues to lead the league in TDs every year and has a long career he’ll get in without the awards. Brees still gets in, even without his Super Bowl. But at that point you’d have to ask yourself…why won’t anybody give Allen some awards?

The Bills have the #2 scoring offense in the league and only 2 players on offense even got any votes. Dawkins and Brown could have been 2nd team all pro in their positions for sure. Meanwhile Baltimore had 7 players on offense receive votes and Detroit had 5 players on offense receive votes.

How is that possible when Allen has sat for the entire final game? He additionally sat for multiple quarters throughout the season. We also had many games where Allen was in but just handing it off. Allen had like 3 pass attempts in the second half of the Jaguars game.